2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[Sieper]

I am literally lost for words with Perez.

I am not, he has never been good here, it is always about tight margins and I don’t understand why they did not switch him earlier. I mean, the later the better the chance, but you know he will likely not deliver.

[bananapeel23]

Surely the WCC is massively compromised by this

The fact that Ferrari can reasonably expect to close the WCC gap despite a double Q2 exit is really telling. Perez is a massive liability and the fact that he got a 2 year contract extension is laughable.

[venkyhere]

I am literally lost for words with Perez.

I am not, he has never been good here, it is always about tight margins and I don’t understand why they did not switch him earlier. I mean, the later the better the chance, but you know he will likely not deliver.

Bingo. You hit the nail on the head. Perez cannot handle the 'all or nothing' pressure of a single allocation lap for this-is-Q1-get-out-of-relegation-zone or a this-is-Q3-get-to-front-row. He is not Max or Lewis (in his prime) or LeClerc. The guy needs to 'feel his way in' for every quali session. Qualifying is his natural weakness.

[JordanMugen]

Red Bull is very bad on curbs, this is a big problem, the RB20 is clearly inferior to the efficiency of the RB19

Yeah, how did that happen? RB18 was reasonable on kerbs IIRC.

I guess it's to do with 15mm raised floor edge (and/or increased load test for outer floor corner to prevent flexing) and thus chasing the recovery of 2022 ground effect with stiffer setups and lower ride heights?

Perez cannot handle the 'all or nothing' pressure of a single allocation lap

But Perez is a professional Grand Prix racing driver?

In any case, RBR back Perez as being an ace, so that's good enough for me.

[Sieper]

Like I said, last 3 results 12, 16, 13th for Checo here. And now with the field so tight why expect him to do better. No FP1 and 2.

I agree with venky’s very befitting metaphor, he needs to feel his way in and he was in the dark too much. Like Ferrari.

[Wouter]

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Looking at the long runs, it looks fine for RB as long as there isn't too severe graining. If it rains probably good for Max

[Sieper]

Rain here, someone will go in a wall. And then you need to be in the right place for the pit entry.

[TeamKoolGreen]

I am literally lost for words with Perez.

I am not, he has never been good here,

Here ? He got knocked out in Q1 for the second race in a row. Completely indefensible. Missing Q3 because of X , Y and Z is one thing. Getting punted in Q1 while the VCARBs advance is just mid season replacement worthy. Nevermind 2 year extensions.

[Sieper]

It is not really a two year extension. It is 1 plus 1. I am just giving you to facts. Last race was Monaco, they didn’t have the car there. I expect checo to do better on tracks where the RB20 is actually the car to beat. There are still many of them coming up.

But the competition is coming closer. Slim margins.

[AR3-GP]

My own estimation is that the Mercedes has 2 tenths over Red Bull here. Mercedes did 1.11.7 in Q2. Red Bull was nowhere near this and Verstappen said that time would have been impossible. Mercedes also has a 2 tenths advantage in the FP3 long runs. Toto Wolff also implied that qualifying was closer than they expected (they expected further ahead). Norris said his lap was not clean and was happy to only be hundredths off. He could have qualified ahead. That places Red Bull 3rd on performance.

[Luscion]

My own estimation is that the Mercedes has 2 tenths over Red Bull here. Mercedes did 1.11.7 in Q2. Red Bull was nowhere near this and Verstappen said that time would have been impossible. Mercedes also has a 2 tenths advantage in the FP3 long runs. Toto Wolff also implied that qualifying was closer than they expected (they expected further ahead). Norris said his lap was not clean and was happy to only be hundredths off. He could have qualified ahead. That places Red Bull 3rd on performance.

Agreed, Russell saying they expect 3-4 tenths from the new tires but didnt improve and Merc saying they will look into why, to him saying they're the favourites, Toto saying they have the pace and Shovlin saying Lewis can get a podium even though hes starting from 7th because his race pace in fp3 was "so strong", interesting to see how close it will be between Merc and Mclaren

[Dunlay]

This race is critical for Red Bull to see if they are going down a rabbit hole of darkness. Since the last upgrades, they have seen performance regression both in qualifying and races. If they have understood why that has happened and have fixed the procedural issues, they should be ahead on race pace on Sunday. The PU situation doesn't help either. But if they struggle here, then the regression is real and a cause of worry. If Mercedes is getting their act together, it could be far more dangerous than a fast McLaren or Ferrari.

[Bill]

Max will do just fine .the redbull is a better race car than quali ,i sure he is hitting those kerbs too.

[Bill]

Perez is ---. once again he completely collapses

Totally predictable as well. Sadly a joke of an extension

Perez might just be the reason they lose the WCC

last year Max was gloating that he can win the constructor alone he should do it then.they just keep perez for the money.