2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Cracking stuff. Barcelona upgrade needs to be massive.
A lion must kill its prey.

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The W15 is gradually becoming very fast, today the car was one of the fastest, but Barcelona is more important, it will be clear there, it seems that more updates should be brought to Barcelona

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Sieper wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 21:59
I don’t think so, the rest is too close. Hope on tracks where they are good they actually still have an advantage.
Honestly I think Max will win 75% of the remaining races and the other 25% by a mix of teams.

Red Bull ‘struggled’ in Imola and Montreal yet Max basically got pole in both and the win.

I feel its abit like Aston Martin- just how good it the Red Bull? Max extracts massive amounts of time out of it yet Perez can’t find his keys #-o
Just a fan's point of view

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Cracking race. 3rd best car at time through the weekend. Just shows how clinical Max is to get the win. Sometimes its whats needed when the others lack a touch.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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AR3-GP wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:04
Cracking stuff. Barcelona upgrade needs to be massive.
Is there one planned?
Just a fan's point of view

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CjC wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:11
AR3-GP wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:04
Cracking stuff. Barcelona upgrade needs to be massive.
Is there one planned?
According to Marko, yes.
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Verstappen is just an anomaly in Formula 1 at this point, for anyone to beat him, they need a car advantage right now.

Perez on the other hand is a complete tool, a useless driver. It is beyond me how they extended his contract. Half the grid would do a better job.

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huge relief after this race, was meant to be damage limitation but Max managed to get pole time and steal a precious win just like in Imola

car has clearly some problems in tracks like this but not enough to stop Max, as I thought at Monaco with no compromises the others could exploit their superior ride but when you have to compromise for high speed the RB20 comes back in the game, plus rivals are taking off points each other

more optimistic for the future "apparently bad tracks", I feel that only Singapore is already a write off, the rest is game on

WCC is clearly very critical of course, I think this year Max won't be able to win it himself

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When Norris led the restart in Miami, Max was alongside him into T1. When Max led the 2nd restart in Canada, he pulled 8 tenths on Norris before they even reached the brake zone for T1.

Many drivers can do fast laps, few execute all of small technical details that can be decisive for winning a race.
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AR3-GP wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:27
When Norris led the restart in Miami, Max was alongside him into T1. When Max led the 2nd restart in Canada, he pulled 8 tenths on Norris before they even reached the brake zone for T1.

Many drivers can do fast laps, few execute all of small technical details that can be decisive for winning a race.
Said it countless times....The way Max handles a safety car restart in many many many years, even post 2021, is absolutely unrivalled.
Jeez - they even changed the rules because of him. But still manages to be the GOAT.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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Rikhart wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:16
Verstappen is just an anomaly in Formula 1 at this point, for anyone to beat him, they need a car advantage right now.

Perez on the other hand is a complete tool, a useless driver. It is beyond me how they extended his contract. Half the grid would do a better job.
Max is great no doubt but norris actually passed him on the track for the lead until the strategy saved him he could have still won but that speculation.he didn't do enough to save the tires on wet race.redbull are battlehardened the learned that during their championship years

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Bill wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:38
Rikhart wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:16
Verstappen is just an anomaly in Formula 1 at this point, for anyone to beat him, they need a car advantage right now.

Perez on the other hand is a complete tool, a useless driver. It is beyond me how they extended his contract. Half the grid would do a better job.
Max is great no doubt but norris actually passed him on the track for the lead until the strategy saved him he could have still won but that speculation.he didn't do enough to save the tires on wet race.redbull are battlehardened the learned that during their championship years
Id disagree the strategy saved Max. Did McLaren leave Norris out too long? Mega close and was the fact Max had warmer tyres and the racing line that he got 1st back.
But you can then argue that the last safety car Norris had 3 lap newer tyres, so was advantage Norris. Strategy didnt save that or Max pulling a good lead in the last laps of the race.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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if mclaren pulled norris before or on similar lap with Max the he would have kept his lead it is that simple from there on who knows.

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chrisc90 wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:43
Bill wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:38
Rikhart wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:16
Verstappen is just an anomaly in Formula 1 at this point, for anyone to beat him, they need a car advantage right now.

Perez on the other hand is a complete tool, a useless driver. It is beyond me how they extended his contract. Half the grid would do a better job.
Max is great no doubt but norris actually passed him on the track for the lead until the strategy saved him he could have still won but that speculation.he didn't do enough to save the tires on wet race.redbull are battlehardened the learned that during their championship years
Id disagree the strategy saved Max. Did McLaren leave Norris out too long? Mega close and was the fact Max had warmer tyres and the racing line that he got 1st back.
But you can then argue that the last safety car Norris had 3 lap newer tyres, so was advantage Norris. Strategy didnt save that or Max pulling a good lead in the last laps of the race.
Safety car saved Max as Lando was unable to pit because SC was thrown after Lando passed pit entry and then was caught by the SC (unlike in Miami).

Without that SC being thrown exactly after Lando passed the pit entry, Lando stays P1 after the pitstops and they have to fight it out on track. Because SC fell wrong for Lando he ended up in P3 after his pitstop. Without SC at all Lando had 10s lead but probably they would bunch up at some time.

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FittingMechanics wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:57
chrisc90 wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:43
Bill wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:38


Max is great no doubt but norris actually passed him on the track for the lead until the strategy saved him he could have still won but that speculation.he didn't do enough to save the tires on wet race.redbull are battlehardened the learned that during their championship years
Id disagree the strategy saved Max. Did McLaren leave Norris out too long? Mega close and was the fact Max had warmer tyres and the racing line that he got 1st back.
But you can then argue that the last safety car Norris had 3 lap newer tyres, so was advantage Norris. Strategy didnt save that or Max pulling a good lead in the last laps of the race.
Safety car saved Max as Lando was unable to pit because SC was thrown after Lando passed pit entry and then was caught by the SC (unlike in Miami).

Without that SC being thrown exactly after Lando passed the pit entry, Lando stays P1 after the pitstops and they have to fight it out on track. Because SC fell wrong for Lando he ended up in P3 after his pitstop. Without SC at all Lando had 10s lead but probably they would bunch up at some time.
Lando was 2/3 way up the final straight when the safety car come out. Lando even questioned boxing, but his engineer was probably half a second too slow in bringing him in. So it wasn't the safety car that saved map on lap 26. Land could have called box box box when he seen the lights which would have scrambled a waiting pit crew holding station after a yellow flag. Mega late call, but would have worked.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.