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[JordanMugen]

As for Antonelli, I think we can ask a little better of him than P6 against supposedly less talented drivers. No wins, no podiums etc. His pace and tyre management has not looked all that impressive. All in all, he has not lived up to the hype, yet.

If Paul Aron is the better driver (F2 leader), surely Wolff should sign Aron?!

I agree that Antonelli does not seem that masterful in F2 yet. E.g., he was scrappy in qualifying at Imola and has made other mistakes previously, instead of dancing the car with precision on a maximum attack to a comfortable pole position and gapping the field with ease in races (instead of falling backwards if anything at times).

[organic]

The team matters a lot in F2, even if it's a spec series. With the new car prema are nowhere

[JordanMugen]

The team matters a lot in F2, even if it's a spec series. With the new car prema are nowhere

True! Yet if Antonelli is a superstar then even if the lap results in P6 in qualifying would it not be a masterful precise lap utilising all the circuit without track limits issues (perfect everywhere, totally maxxed out, perfect braking zones, perfect traction zones, superstar driving) and not a scruffy lap with obvious mistakes as seen from Antonelli?

Or does the poor car balance from poor Prema setup make Antonelli (and Bearman) seem worse as they cannot push the car to maximum attack with no mistakes due to poor car handling?

I guess this is where Mercedes' data on how Antonelli drives an F1 car in actual F1 testing is more important -- why care about how he drives an F2 car? Mercedes are looking for an F1 driver not an F2 driver!

I've said elsewhere, F1 teams are looking for good F1 drivers not good F2 drivers.

[chrisc90]

Toto needs to just send it with Antonelli. Seems like its a case of, "once bitten, twice shy". (in missing out on Max in the very early days). Can never make the same mistake twice.

I think Sainz and his chosen team will be the one that triggers the rest of the grid.

[bluechris]

Guys, is this real? The wing passed the FIA test so what is this about?

'Red Bull asks FIA to investigate Mercedes' front wing'

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/282580/r ... -wing.html

[AR3-GP]

Guys, is this real? The wing passed the FIA test so what is this about?

'Red Bull asks FIA to investigate Mercedes' front wing'

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/282580/r ... -wing.html

It is nothing more than another team seeking regulations clarification. It happens often. Teams want to fully understand what they can and cannot do for their own purposes.

[chrisc90]

Thats Georges front wing in Canada. DO have to admit - it does flex quite a bit. The article someone posted in the RBR thread (in Italian) does mention the outer edge flex.

[maygun]

Thats Georges front wing in Canada. DO have to admit - it does flex quite a bit. The article someone posted in the RBR thread (in Italian) does mention the outer edge flex.

All front wings flex like this.

Couldn't find a recent video but last year's RB front wing:

[AR3-GP]

Thats Georges front wing in Canada. DO have to admit - it does flex quite a bit. The article someone posted in the RBR thread (in Italian) does mention the outer edge flex.

All front wings flex like this.

Couldn't find a recent video but last year's RB front wing:

Red Bull's front wing construction is different this year (the split is now located near the endplate, not near the nose) so a more recent video is more useful.

My general observation was that Ferrari and Red Bull wings flex much less than that of Mercedes and Mclaren. For what reason, we could only speculate.

Questions like this have come up before. One could only hope for some consistency from the FIA.

[Farnborough]

The rear is clearly bending backwards and effectively down from the whole assembly rotation in both video shared on W15 thread, for LH & GR car.

Everyone knows how desirable it is for drag to do this, there's no secret to that. FIA put spots on them for good reason.

How they compare to others is important here.

[KimiRai]

Guys, is this real? The wing passed the FIA test so what is this about?

Aston situation last year proved FIA tests sometimes aren't enough I guess...

[TeamKoolGreen]

So Antonelli didn't need the age amendment to do FP1 runs per Joe Sward. And he turns 18 in August. So when's Sargeants last race ?

[ringo]

That wing is quite rigid compared to true flexi wings. Nothing to write home about there.

[Dunlay]

Thats Georges front wing in Canada. DO have to admit - it does flex quite a bit. The article someone posted in the RBR thread (in Italian) does mention the outer edge flex.

The front wing is NOT flexing as a whole. There are 2 elements that are flexing under load. I think so long as the wing maintains the required ground clearance, its ok for elements to move under load.

[PlatinumZealot]

It's not the flexing they're after, its the cut outs on the endplates. They are strongly encouraging outwash against the spirit of the rules. The little guide vanes are almost floating in mid-air with a clear sideways path.