2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

This forum contains threads to discuss teams themselves. Anything not technical about the cars, including restructuring, performances etc belongs here.
Dunlay
Dunlay
1
Joined: 10 Mar 2024, 15:23

Re: 2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Cs98 wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 19:44
lio007 wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 19:32
Cs98 wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 19:19

Are these current pictures? Can't see how they would possibly be in time to develop the 2026 car in the tunnel if so.
They are from April.2024
BTW it was never the plan to develop the '26 car in the new windtunnel. The '27 car will be the first fully developed in the new windtunnel.
They've lost half a year or so, because on the original location they had some initial objections from the UK Railway Network, and the local Council.
Local councils :lol: I'm not even British but their reputations precede them.
Isn't it good that a local council has enough clout to stop a corporate bulldozing places and disturbing homes and communities? In many other countries, people have no power even in legally right position, to stop corporates overrunning them as the administration and governments are so deeply corrupt that they stand with corporates in every crime.

User avatar
lio007
316
Joined: 28 Jan 2013, 23:03
Location: Austria

Re: 2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Dunlay wrote:
22 Jun 2024, 03:22
Cs98 wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 19:44
lio007 wrote:
21 Jun 2024, 19:32

They are from April.2024
BTW it was never the plan to develop the '26 car in the new windtunnel. The '27 car will be the first fully developed in the new windtunnel.
They've lost half a year or so, because on the original location they had some initial objections from the UK Railway Network, and the local Council.
Local councils :lol: I'm not even British but their reputations precede them.
Isn't it good that a local council has enough clout to stop a corporate bulldozing places and disturbing homes and communities? In many other countries, people have no power even in legally right position, to stop corporates overrunning them as the administration and governments are so deeply corrupt that they stand with corporates in every crime.
In this case it was not related to bulldozing places and disturbing homes because the building was already there. It was a former warehouse of a bathroom equipment company. It had something to do with water, a minor thing that could have been solved, but the UK railway network concerns were bigger IIRC.

User avatar
Sergej
2
Joined: 09 Apr 2024, 19:00

Re: 2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

what do you think about FP3 ? will they align with Ferrari/Mercedes using 1 medium and 1 soft saving one new soft for the race, or they will save one more medium using 2 sets of soft ? I think it will depend on whether they want to start the race on soft (like Mercedes last year) or medium

Image

User avatar
organic
1055
Joined: 08 Jan 2022, 02:24
Location: Cambridge, UK

Re: 2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

High load rear wing for fp3 as expected


User avatar
Sergej
2
Joined: 09 Apr 2024, 19:00

Re: 2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

FP3 started on medium, so they will definitely do at least one stint on soft tomorrow

User avatar
organic
1055
Joined: 08 Jan 2022, 02:24
Location: Cambridge, UK

Re: 2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Sergej wrote:
22 Jun 2024, 13:00
FP3 started on medium, so they will definitely do at least one stint on soft tomorrow
Maybe S-M-H like last year for some teams

AR3-GP
AR3-GP
365
Joined: 06 Jul 2021, 01:22

Re: 2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Better tire deg in FP3 race sim on medium tire:

Image
A lion must kill its prey.

User avatar
Sergej
2
Joined: 09 Apr 2024, 19:00

Re: 2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

deg is good, but it only matters if that pace is fast enough

User avatar
Sergej
2
Joined: 09 Apr 2024, 19:00

Re: 2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

I have not a very good feeling for qualy but let's see

User avatar
organic
1055
Joined: 08 Jan 2022, 02:24
Location: Cambridge, UK

Re: 2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Sergej wrote:
22 Jun 2024, 13:37
I have not a very good feeling for qualy but let's see
Same. I think Ferrari and McLaren seem faster than RB at this point.

If RB really have lost all of their advantage it is quite astonishing. But that is the way of F1

venkyhere
venkyhere
14
Joined: 10 Feb 2024, 06:17

Re: 2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Sergej wrote:
22 Jun 2024, 13:37
I have not a very good feeling for qualy but let's see
IMHO, quali doesn't matter here as it used to before, when the final chicane was in place. What matters is T13->T14->straight , as that will be the key to DRS overtake. The setup needs to be squarely focussed on race and preserving the rear tyres. If that is going to introduce a little bit of understeer and sacrifice quali, so be it.

User avatar
Sergej
2
Joined: 09 Apr 2024, 19:00

Re: 2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

venkyhere wrote:
22 Jun 2024, 13:48
Sergej wrote:
22 Jun 2024, 13:37
I have not a very good feeling for qualy but let's see
IMHO, quali doesn't matter here as it used to before, when the final chicane was in place. What matters is T13->T14->straight , as that will be the key to DRS overtake. The setup needs to be squarely focussed on race and preserving the rear tyres. If that is going to introduce a little bit of understeer and sacrifice quali, so be it.
I agree with you that here race is more important than qualy, it has to be seen if Red Bull can have a superior race pace though, I'm not sure we can say that at the moment, based on what seen in FPs

anyway I think that not being in the first row would be a disappointment no matter what, given Barcelona is supposed to be a super favourable track for RB20

let's see if Max can pull the usual magic

venkyhere
venkyhere
14
Joined: 10 Feb 2024, 06:17

Re: 2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

I could clearly hear Perez liftoff for 9 and 12 while Max was flat out. Something basic is wrong with his car or the way he sets it up or it's a silly case of driver not confident enough to push it proper.

Cs98
Cs98
33
Joined: 01 Jul 2022, 11:37

Re: 2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Car still looks unbalanced in the low speed. Feel like there is more time on the table. The race run seemed like full fuel with a more cautious opening than yesterday, deg improved.

AR3-GP
AR3-GP
365
Joined: 06 Jul 2021, 01:22

Re: 2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

Post

Not bad at all. I don't think they are missing anything here. Time to go racing.
A lion must kill its prey.