maybe, but it would have been helpful to have it in an aero track like Silverstone where as of now we will have no chance against this McLaren, but anyway if the package is not ready there's not much to do, let's go damage limitation.
maybe, but it would have been helpful to have it in an aero track like Silverstone where as of now we will have no chance against this McLaren, but anyway if the package is not ready there's not much to do, let's go damage limitation.
That is part of it. Don't forget they lead both championship by a large margin. So what more can you get from Perez that will change those out comes?AR3-GP wrote: ↑25 Jun 2024, 22:39Why did they bother to replace Gasly and Albon who were doing the same as Perez?
Perez's money and the marketing makes the difference. That is why he has 2 more years. Perez is not a Red Bull junior. This team never fielded non-Red Bull juniors in their history before Perez.
Italians are saying the same too.Sergej wrote: ↑25 Jun 2024, 23:12thank you for your linkSirBastianVettel wrote: ↑25 Jun 2024, 21:50“After all, the racing stable hopes to come up with a major update package before the summer break and cannot miss a day.”Sergej wrote: ↑25 Jun 2024, 21:26https://www.telegraaf.nl/sport/13845285 ... e-bezorgen
in this article Erik van Haren should talk about next upgrades for Red Bull, unfortunately it's behind pay wall and I cannot read it.
https://archive.is/rYIar
so it seems confirmed that the big package won't be there in Silverstone, rather in Budapest.
https://formu1a.uno/it/red-bull-imperfe ... talizzato/The updates – planned for the round in Hungary as happened last year – by Christian Horner's men will have the crucial task of keeping the excellent MCL38 at bay in the second half of the season and avoiding a, for now, an unlikely World Championship comeback.
You are making assumptions that the cars from 2019 to 2024 have exact same behaviour of lack of balance, due to which Albon and Gasly struggled. They are two different regulations and cars are vastly different. This year, Marko even made statement that the car is designed to also work for Perez. He started last year and this on a positive note, that suggest the car worked for him, which was never the case with Gasly and Albon. They never made attempts to specifically help those two drivers to mend the car to their preferences. Situations were different as they were desparately chasing from so far behind Mercedes, their focus was never to try helping the other driver as much.ali623 wrote: ↑25 Jun 2024, 19:59Not sure why you’re so confident of that. We’ve now seen Perez, Albon and Gasly all struggle massively in the Red Bull over the past 5/6 years. Perez was a more than solid midfield driver prior to joining Red Bull, and a race winner. Since leaving Red Bull, Gasly is also considered a very strong driver who’s also a race winner, Albon likewise is now highly rated at Williams.Dunlay wrote: ↑25 Jun 2024, 19:31This is what happenes when money comes above integrity and quality. A driver that has no right to be on the grid is driving the best car on the grid. There are atleast 10 junior drivers who can do far better job than Perez, right from the word go. But we won't see that happening.
Guaranteed if Perez jumped into another team for the rest of the season, he’d also ‘suddenly look good’ again.
That must be quite painful to hear for Verstappen when someone like Alonso, who Max looks up to, has 6 tenths on the field.
That's a bit much isn't it? Norris and Verstappen were matched on pace in Imola, Canada and Spain. Removing those tenths he has on the field to bring him to their level would put him between or behind Russell/Hamilton in the three races. There's no way that Mercedes, Ferrari and McLaren gained so much over the last few months to match or beat Max, especially McLaren. Max is driving near or at the limit of the car because he's one of the only drivers who can extract so much from the car. That's also an insult to the other drivers who are extremely quick themselves.
SirBastianVettel wrote: ↑26 Jun 2024, 11:23That must be quite painful to hear for Verstappen when someone like Alonso, who Max looks up to, has 6 tenths on the field.
I'm not sure what that has to do with why RBR is happy with Perez.aMessageToCharlie wrote: ↑26 Jun 2024, 06:33VER has proven time and time again that he will wipe the floor with any team mate. It was RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR NOSE, but you didn't see it.
Unless they brought in one of the few absolute top drivers like LEC or ALO, VER wont be sweating. But there are like 18 better #2 drivers on the grid alone.
Also, there is no 'the red bull'. It's individuals making choices. Bad choices. Don't you get it?
3 tenths is probably a stretch, but many people have been saying that people have overestimated the Red Bull car. Even in the latter stages of 2023, we saw races where the RB19 wasn't at its best (like Vegas or Brazil, or even Qatar after they introduced the max stint length), and where the outcome was decently close - and that could possibly be attributed to Verstappen. Note that this is after taking into account safety cars etc.r85 wrote: ↑26 Jun 2024, 11:45That's a bit much isn't it? Norris and Verstappen were matched on pace in Imola, Canada and Spain. Removing those tenths he has on the field to bring him to their level would put him between or behind Russell/Hamilton in the three races. There's no way that Mercedes, Ferrari and McLaren gained so much over the last few months to match or beat Max, especially McLaren. Max is driving near or at the limit of the car because he's one of the only drivers who can extract so much from the car. That's also an insult to the other drivers who are extremely quick themselves.
Interesting that Marko points to the sprint weekend as the main difficulty for Austria, rather than the track characteristic (kerbs); but after the sprint, parc fermé is re-opened and you can fix some setup woes, in my opinion finding the right setup should be less of a problem with this format compared to last year.AR3-GP wrote: ↑26 Jun 2024, 16:44Marko's traditional post-race column: https://www.speedweek.com/formel1/news/ ... -Sieg.html
Agree, I can see Max winning the sprint if he gets pole and then second on Saturday which would be a good outcome. That depends on Ferrari's performance of course. Mclaren will be very strong.Sergej wrote: ↑26 Jun 2024, 18:35Interesting that Marko points to the sprint weekend as the main difficulty for Austria, rather than the track characteristic (kerbs); but after the sprint, parc fermé is re-opened and you can fix some setup woes, in my opinion finding the right setup should be less of a problem with this format compared to last year.AR3-GP wrote: ↑26 Jun 2024, 16:44Marko's traditional post-race column: https://www.speedweek.com/formel1/news/ ... -Sieg.html