There are different stewards involved in each case . It's easy to point finger vaguely at FIA but in this case that makes no sense; you think there's a grand conspiracy involving multiple circuits' stewards to hold McLaren back? Why would there be?Darth-Piekus wrote: ↑30 Jun 2024, 11:29Personally my problem stands with the FIA and their antiMclaren standards when it comes to penalties. Last week both Stroll and Leclerc used their cars as weapons to do deliberate damage and the stewards deemed that a simple reprimand despite all this was done on live camera. In Monaco Sainz was gifted 3rd place on the restart despite driving into Piastri and despite him stopping. At Canada if I remember correct Sainz never got a penalty for a worst impeding situation than Piastri in Imola. Sainz also escaped lightly after destroying the race of Piastri in Miami. And let me not open pandora's box of Max sending others to the parking lot, sending others off the track in dive bombs, passing dangerously inside the pits, driving unnecessarily slow, trying to punch Ocon in Brazil etc etc. I want fairness which I dont see.
Negativity bias is one contributing factor to this perception.Darth-Piekus wrote: ↑30 Jun 2024, 11:34Different stewards. And its a coincidence Mclaren always gets the punishing stewards.
1 point would have been the gain for Norris.
Not using team orders means they respect their driver enough to acknowledge he got the position fair and square on track. It was a fuc*in sprint and Lando is over 70 points behind the wdc. What championship "battle" are they giving up?
no FL point in sprint. The gap in WDC is 71 now. Splitting hairs either wayDarth-Piekus wrote: ↑30 Jun 2024, 12:57You mean 70 points. Lando got one more point for fastest lap.
What one point for a fast lap are you talking about?! You were talking about this yesterday. In the sprint race, there is no bonus point for a fast lap, only in the main race.Darth-Piekus wrote: ↑30 Jun 2024, 12:57You mean 70 points. Lando got one more point for fastest lap. Still I dont think the car is equal to Red Bull for Norris to be able to beat Max. However we can get the constructors. Silverstone should be the next good upgrade that will solidify the car as 2nd best at worst by far. The distance is 93 points.
I've checked again and it seems that the 1 point for fastest lap only counts for races, not sprints.
Mostly due to the lack of consistency from FIA and the stewards, they've put gravel traps to impose physical track limits and now this.... s crew them!organic wrote: ↑29 Jun 2024, 23:51I think it was not a serious protest, but one made on principle to get their foot in the door to at least discuss it with the stewards.
Why do I think this? Because the document says that you cannot even protest track limit violations, so the protest was inadmissible from the beginning even if they correctly addressed it and cited regulations etc.
That they didn't bother to follow proper procedure only makes sense if you consider that the appeal was not designed to succeed