2024 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 05 - 07

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I won't be surprised if the 'trend' follows the past 4-5 races where it will be Lando eating into Max's lead towards the last 10-15 laps and then there is all-out-war.

Has there been any explanation why the McLaren seems to come to life particularly on mid-/lower-fuel levels? I didn't have the impression that it's only due to better tire-wear.

[Starbuckle486]

I won't be surprised if the 'trend' follows the past 4-5 races where it will be Lando eating into Max's lead towards the last 10-15 laps and then there is all-out-war.

Has there been any explanation why the McLaren seems to come to life particularly on mid-/lower-fuel levels? I didn't have the impression that it's only due to better tire-wear.

One explanation could be that their tank is positioned higher. The Mercedes (W14?) had that issue that they had positioned the tank relatively high up.

[organic]

I won't be surprised if the 'trend' follows the past 4-5 races where it will be Lando eating into Max's lead towards the last 10-15 laps and then there is all-out-war.

Has there been any explanation why the McLaren seems to come to life particularly on mid-/lower-fuel levels? I didn't have the impression that it's only due to better tire-wear.

I think red bull also gets worse on low fuel relative to all competition not just mclaren. So double effect

[Just_a_fan]

I won't be surprised if the 'trend' follows the past 4-5 races where it will be Lando eating into Max's lead towards the last 10-15 laps and then there is all-out-war.

Has there been any explanation why the McLaren seems to come to life particularly on mid-/lower-fuel levels? I didn't have the impression that it's only due to better tire-wear.

I think red bull also gets worse on low fuel relative to all competition not just mclaren. So double effect

Perhaps a feature of their respective suspension designs and how the floors work at various ride heights. As the weight comes off, one goes from a bit low to "right" and the other goes from "right" to a bit high. If you see what I mean.

Certainly, if one had to have the best lap times at any one part of the race, being fast in the first quarter/third of the race would be preferential. Enables one to gap the opposition and then control the race from the front.

[Dunlay]

Has there been any explanation why the McLaren seems to come to life particularly on mid-/lower-fuel levels? I didn't have the impression that it's only due to better tire-wear.

I think red bull also gets worse on low fuel relative to all competition not just mclaren. So double effect

Perhaps a feature of their respective suspension designs and how the floors work at various ride heights. As the weight comes off, one goes from a bit low to "right" and the other goes from "right" to a bit high. If you see what I mean.

Certainly, if one had to have the best lap times at any one part of the race, being fast in the first quarter/third of the race would be preferential. Enables one to gap the opposition and then control the race from the front.

But that would leave the car vulnerable
i) if the performance loss is larger when the fuel burns and the ride height increases, towards the end (relative to other car)
ii) if a SC situation comes in mid to late race
iii) by virtue of being faster on the lower fuel levels, if the other car takes pole and retains P1 after first lap, the high fuel performance advantage cannot be achieved by getting stuck behind as tyres starts getting hotter and lose the performance edge quickly

If Max can be kept behind for 7 to 8 laps at the start by Lando or Oscar, then a McLaren win would appear to be more certain.

[michl420]

Has there been any explanation why the McLaren seems to come to life particularly on mid-/lower-fuel levels? I didn't have the impression that it's only due to better tire-wear.

I think red bull also gets worse on low fuel relative to all competition not just mclaren. So double effect

Perhaps a feature of their respective suspension designs and how the floors work at various ride heights. As the weight comes off, one goes from a bit low to "right" and the other goes from "right" to a bit high. If you see what I mean.

Certainly, if one had to have the best lap times at any one part of the race, being fast in the first quarter/third of the race would be preferential. Enables one to gap the opposition and then control the race from the front.

Small corection for some information. Everyone thinks the cars become higher with less fuel. It is the other way around. The cars go lower in the corners because of the higher cornering speed with less fuel. At least that's what I was told.

[venkyhere]

I won't be surprised if the 'trend' follows the past 4-5 races where it will be Lando eating into Max's lead towards the last 10-15 laps and then there is all-out-war.

Has there been any explanation why the McLaren seems to come to life particularly on mid-/lower-fuel levels? I didn't have the impression that it's only due to better tire-wear.

I have a theory that it's the other way around, when fuel load comes down, McLaren doesn't become better, Redbull becomes worse : https://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewt ... 5#p1227785

[selvam_e2002]

I won't be surprised if the 'trend' follows the past 4-5 races where it will be Lando eating into Max's lead towards the last 10-15 laps and then there is all-out-war.

Has there been any explanation why the McLaren seems to come to life particularly on mid-/lower-fuel levels? I didn't have the impression that it's only due to better tire-wear.

I have a theory that it's the other way around, when fuel load comes down, McLaren doesn't become better, Redbull becomes worse : https://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewt ... 5#p1227785

good point. I like your comment.

[chrisc90]

I won't be surprised if the 'trend' follows the past 4-5 races where it will be Lando eating into Max's lead towards the last 10-15 laps and then there is all-out-war.

Has there been any explanation why the McLaren seems to come to life particularly on mid-/lower-fuel levels? I didn't have the impression that it's only due to better tire-wear.

I have a theory that it's the other way around, when fuel load comes down, McLaren doesn't become better, Redbull becomes worse : https://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewt ... 5#p1227785

Wouldn’t explain the gap in qualifying though would it?

[cplchanb]

any weather forecasts so far?

[venkyhere]

Has there been any explanation why the McLaren seems to come to life particularly on mid-/lower-fuel levels? I didn't have the impression that it's only due to better tire-wear.

I have a theory that it's the other way around, when fuel load comes down, McLaren doesn't become better, Redbull becomes worse : https://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewt ... 5#p1227785

Wouldn’t explain the gap in qualifying though would it?

Good point. I was waiting for someone to ask
Again, theory :
1. Q is on soft tyres, and deployment is designed to 100% drain the battery in one lap => speeds are higher, downforce is higher, aero-press on suspension is higher.
2. Being Q, tyres never get 'old enough' for enough reduction in surface friction to expose the limitation from the suspension.

[Joe Hudson]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2637827
slightly showery

[dialtone]

Really should consider racing in the desert. Huge opportunity for greenify the Sahara.

[Wouter]

What do we think of this trofee?

[Wouter]

Well, Norris is in the PC but Max is not. Only Norris can tell his side of what is happend last weekend. That is not fair imo.

Also Zak Brown is in the PC. He isn't the team principal, all the others are.