2024 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

[-wkst-]

Krack on the official website:

We knew Austria was going to be challenging and unlikely to suit the AMR24 – and that's exactly how it played out.

we have not done a good enough job of developing the car; the upgrades have not delivered the performance that they were supposed to, particularly after Imola.

Silverstone will be another challenge for the team – with its long, high-speed corners, it is also unlikely to play to the strengths of the AMR24

Buildings Two and Three are nearing completion and we'll have the wind tunnel up and running shortly.

[PinkFloydPulse]

"it is unlikely to play to the strengths of the AMR24"... like that car has any strengths at all anymore... sad...

[KimiRai]

"it is unlikely to play to the strengths of the AMR24"... like that car has any strengths at all anymore... sad...

According to Schmidt DRS effect, and to a lesser extent good on brakes and traction. But yes not a lot at the moment apart from that.

[KimiRai]

Krack on the official website:

We knew Austria was going to be challenging and unlikely to suit the AMR24 – and that's exactly how it played out.

we have not done a good enough job of developing the car; the upgrades have not delivered the performance that they were supposed to, particularly after Imola.

Silverstone will be another challenge for the team – with its long, high-speed corners, it is also unlikely to play to the strengths of the AMR24

Buildings Two and Three are nearing completion and we'll have the wind tunnel up and running shortly.

It would be good to see a clear improvement in performance before the new wind tunnel is used. They have to do a better job with the old tools, which are not bad at all, see Mercedes. It probably doesn't matter whether they improve them if they don't know how to use/interpret them correctly

[-wkst-]

Well, according to Fallows in the winter the tunnel will need weeks/months of calibration once it's running. He expects that the tunnel will be fully operational around the end of the year. Bearing in mind that the "2025 season start car" must be finished in the tunnel around christmas, the effects of the new tunnel can only be seen in the developments of the 2025 car. But I fullly expect another 2021 season, were there will be hardly developments unless you fight for the championship. You can feel it that AMR can't wait for 2026.

The project manager of the new factory said that around 120 people will move from building 1 to 2 once it is finished. I guess they will also need the space in the near future for the gearbox department and everything else that will be built inhouse for 2026 (facilities and people).

[Sherrinford]

Krack on the official website:

We knew Austria was going to be challenging and unlikely to suit the AMR24 – and that's exactly how it played out.

we have not done a good enough job of developing the car; the upgrades have not delivered the performance that they were supposed to, particularly after Imola.

Silverstone will be another challenge for the team – with its long, high-speed corners, it is also unlikely to play to the strengths of the AMR24

Buildings Two and Three are nearing completion and we'll have the wind tunnel up and running shortly.

And what would be the circuit that exploits the strengths?

[Nikosar]

Toto Wolff revealed that he considers Fernando one of the top 5 best driver in history and that he approached him after Bahrein but Alonso did not want to join Mercedes

[OnEcRiTiCaL]

The Merc is a completely different car.

Understeer in the middle of the corner means something is going wrong with the flow under the car in the corners that they're losing DF, probably the very front section of the floor. The part where the air exits right at the front part of the floor that is fed by the outer most section of the floor inlet would be my guess. Could be ride height tilt from the curve, could be turbulence from somewhere in the front, could be something wrong with the floor itself and could be a bunch of other things I haven't thought of.

Is the tyres!
We have to go back to the time when Aston Martin was good in the corners and one of the best in terms of tire degradation. Just look at the AMR23: they used a lot of wing at the front and rear, and their floor was so simple, with just two tunnels and no fancy elements. This simple floor and the extensive use of wings tell me that Aston Martin generated more downforce from the wings than from ground effect. A lot of wing caused drag, while the floor didn't create significant drag. Now look at the AMR24; it looks like a bird without wings. They literally don't have front wing flap curves, almost flat. They also reduced the rear downforce for higher DRS efficiency and top speed. So, basically, they lost a lot of downforce from the wings. The floor probably still doesn't make enough downforce to compensate for the losses from the front and rear wings.
Without enough downforce from the floor they will struggle forever with those small wings. I would say they should find at least 15% extra downforce on the floor to get close to Mercedes and McLaren and extra extra 20% to Redbull.
So basically without enough downforce car won't turn, won't be ballanced, just will slide instead of stick to the asphalt. This why Aston have tyre issues and slow. Don't forget, you can't find seconds in the setup ,but you can find seconds in the tyres.

Yes, but how do you explain this with the decent speeds in qualifying at the beginning of the season and the collapse now?It also suffers from noticeable understeer (due to a front suspension?) so you can't blame the wings for that. I remember the wing of Saudi Arabia 2023 which was more empty, but in the meantime that one the car still went fast

The decent qualifying speeds at the beginning of the season can be attributed to a few factors. Early in the season, the car might have been better optimized for qualification and other teams may not have fully optimized their setups at qualification or just simply with light car the Aston less instabil and sliding. However at race they are even slower since the start of the season .

[Sherrinford]

Toto Wolff revealed that he considers Fernando one of the top 5 best driver in history and that he approached him after Bahrein but Alonso did not want to join Mercedes

In my opinion they offered him a 1+1

[abhi1200]

As per tweet handler but i will call rumour that adrain newey is on the way to aston martin but it feel 0% take it with a pinch of salt.


bcoz this same guy has tweeted this also not a reliable guy

[krich]

As per tweet handler but i will call rumour that adrain newey is on the way to aston martin but it feel 0%

that guy is a fake account, but everythings possible, nobody knows what Adrian will do

[KimiRai]

Parody account

[SSJ4]

Not expecting much this weekend. Can we skip to Hungary or September already

Tomorrow we will see Aston Martin with a modified front wing. Let's see if he can 'turn on' the floor of the car. An AMR24 capable of placing @alo_oficial third on the grid in China this year or fourth in Arabia. And it suffered a clear decline with the evolution of Ímola.

From Carlos miquel. Flexi wing or too early for that?

[Rikrikrik]

Not expecting much this weekend. Can we skip to Hungary or September already

Tomorrow we will see Aston Martin with a modified front wing. Let's see if he can 'turn on' the floor of the car. An AMR24 capable of placing @alo_oficial third on the grid in China this year or fourth in Arabia. And it suffered a clear decline with the evolution of Ímola.

From Carlos miquel. Flexi wing or too early for that?

We can see cleary in here how too many people speaking a lot about AM situation and we cant believe in nothing. Last week i see on twitter "AM bring floor, Sidepods, rear wing, supeensions, and whatever to hungary, BUT THE FRONT WING WILL BE DELAYED TO AFTER HUNGARY" and now what happen? AM with a new front wing before Hungary

[KimiRai]

We don't know yet what is new on the front wing so lets wait for pictures, it could be a minor change after all.