2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[yooogurt]

How about Paddy Lowe?

[catent]

Mike Elliot and Aldo Costa both make a lot of sense, given their respective histories working alongside Serra; perhaps both could be joining (in different roles, of course).

I guess the question becomes, would one rather have Newey (from afar), Serra, and some combination of Vasseur/Newey hires? Or would one rather have Serra, Costa, potentially Elliot, all of whom will be fully present and engaged with the team, with Vasseur being the clear leader?

[dialtone]

According to this article basically Vasseur joined Ferrari with the thought: “keeping the same leaders that worked here for 20 years isn’t going to change things, we need new people all around in leadership”.

It’s not a bad thought and frankly the only thing you can really do. Given the 499P it’s clear Ferrari has great engineers in there. It’s a risky road but at least it’s a different approach.

Too bad for Newey, would have been legendary.

Lewis would be looped in any new TD choice, if Elliot comes back it would be because Lewis was ok with it as well.

Well hopefully the new front suspension tweaks can make a difference or it’s pain for the rest of the season.

[jambuka]

Could it be Dan fallows ? Maybe they did a swap with Cardille.

[KimiRai]

Could it be Dan fallows ? Maybe they did a swap with Cardille.

It's possible, perhaps Fallows isn't in best terms with Newey after he left Red Bull? If they are making way for Newey that is... Ferrari also tried to sign Fallows years ago but he chose Aston instead.
The issue with this theory is that it's the exact same Business F1 has reported Not sure if you can trust them...

[Fakepivot]

why should ferrari go for dan fallows who has less success in aston than Cardile??

[Xyz22]

Cardile didn't replace Fallows in Aston Martin, at least according to the official statements.

[yooogurt]

TD should arrive after the summer break. And Fallows will have one gardening with half a year minimum.
It has to be someone free and off the teams.

[LetHimTrough]

If Ferrari is trying to get Newey, I wouldn't be surprised it is someone relatively unknown from "Newey's umbrella", in a way or indicate that Newey will come later or trying to entice him to have the CTO role.

[K1Plus]

TD should arrive after the summer break. And Fallows will have one gardening with half a year minimum.
It has to be someone free and off the teams.

Mike Elliott is free. So is Sbinner Time, wondering if he'd accept going back to TD?

[yooogurt]

Mike Elliott is free. So is Sbinner Time, wondering if he'd accept going back to TD?

I think putting Binotto back on TD wouldnt be a bad idea. He good as technical.

[wickedz50]

Mike Elliott is free. So is Sbinner Time, wondering if he'd accept going back to TD?

I think putting Binotto back on TD wouldnt be a bad idea. He good as technical.

Will Binotto be able to work under FV's leadership? Binotto had problems earlier when MA was the team principal. The problem does not get solved here so easily. A good TD will need support from every areas, its like a symphony and its a team effort. One person cannot bring the change overnite. I hope FV has build that platform in the last 2 years to bring in the TD who can then get the final orchestra play the way it is melodious. It needs lot of dedication, discipline and commitment. Also immense patience is needed to bring the change where failures are stepping stones for success and not getting fired. When they have this culture then I am sure they will be back.

[codetower]

Mike Elliott is free. So is Sbinner Time, wondering if he'd accept going back to TD?

I think putting Binotto back on TD wouldnt be a bad idea. He good as technical.

Will Binotto be able to work under FV's leadership? Binotto had problems earlier when MA was the team principal. The problem does not get solved here so easily. A good TD will need support from every areas, its like a symphony and its a team effort. One person cannot bring the change overnite. I hope FV has build that platform in the last 2 years to bring in the TD who can then get the final orchestra play the way it is melodious. It needs lot of dedication, discipline and commitment. Also immense patience is needed to bring the change where failures are stepping stones for success and not getting fired. When they have this culture then I am sure they will be back.

I never disliked Binotto. I disliked his results. Bringing him back as a TD will never happen, but I wouldn't be opposed to it. I don't think he was the comfortable as the TP to be honest so if he ever would come back, I think he'd be fine working under Fred as long as there is mutual respect.

If there is one positive thing I would say about Binotto, he wasn't afraid to test the grey areas. Sure, it didn't always work, but he was pushing. Look at McLaren with the flexwing, RB with the flexing rear wings a couple of years ago, Mercedes with DAS, their front wing design, etc. I think in this sport if you aren't testing the limits, you wont get ahead.

[RacePaceDemon]

I think putting Binotto back on TD wouldnt be a bad idea. He good as technical.

Will Binotto be able to work under FV's leadership? Binotto had problems earlier when MA was the team principal. The problem does not get solved here so easily. A good TD will need support from every areas, its like a symphony and its a team effort. One person cannot bring the change overnite. I hope FV has build that platform in the last 2 years to bring in the TD who can then get the final orchestra play the way it is melodious. It needs lot of dedication, discipline and commitment. Also immense patience is needed to bring the change where failures are stepping stones for success and not getting fired. When they have this culture then I am sure they will be back.

I never disliked Binotto. I disliked his results. Bringing him back as a TD will never happen, but I wouldn't be opposed to it. I don't think he was the comfortable as the TP to be honest so if he ever would come back, I think he'd be fine working under Fred as long as there is mutual respect.

If there is one positive thing I would say about Binotto, he wasn't afraid to test the grey areas. Sure, it didn't always work, but he was pushing. Look at McLaren with the flexwing, RB with the flexing rear wings a couple of years ago, Mercedes with DAS, their front wing design, etc. I think in this sport if you aren't testing the limits, you wont get ahead.

In 2019 he was responsible for the use of an illegal engine and when busted, Ferrari were no where for 2 years.

In 2022, the Ferrari was a good car, for a while. But reliability, strategic blunders and zero accountability meant they won only a few races.

After the summer break, the clown claimed they could win all the remaining races, they won none. He also claimed that all development resources were put to next years car. Even after they would likely need to change concept after TD39.

After the season in 2022 Binotto was fired.

In 2023, after much hype from the press. The SF23 which Binotto and his team were responsible for was 1 second off in race pace.

Does this sound like the sort of individual you want running a technical team?

[codetower]

Will Binotto be able to work under FV's leadership? Binotto had problems earlier when MA was the team principal. The problem does not get solved here so easily. A good TD will need support from every areas, its like a symphony and its a team effort. One person cannot bring the change overnite. I hope FV has build that platform in the last 2 years to bring in the TD who can then get the final orchestra play the way it is melodious. It needs lot of dedication, discipline and commitment. Also immense patience is needed to bring the change where failures are stepping stones for success and not getting fired. When they have this culture then I am sure they will be back.

I never disliked Binotto. I disliked his results. Bringing him back as a TD will never happen, but I wouldn't be opposed to it. I don't think he was the comfortable as the TP to be honest so if he ever would come back, I think he'd be fine working under Fred as long as there is mutual respect.

If there is one positive thing I would say about Binotto, he wasn't afraid to test the grey areas. Sure, it didn't always work, but he was pushing. Look at McLaren with the flexwing, RB with the flexing rear wings a couple of years ago, Mercedes with DAS, their front wing design, etc. I think in this sport if you aren't testing the limits, you wont get ahead.

In 2019 he was responsible for the use of an illegal engine and when busted, Ferrari were no where for 2 years.

In 2022, the Ferrari was a good car, for a while. But reliability, strategic blunders and zero accountability meant they won only a few races.

After the summer break, the clown claimed they could win all the remaining races, they won none. He also claimed that all development resources were put to next years car. Even after they would likely need to change concept after TD39.

After the season in 2022 Binotto was fired.

In 2023, after much hype from the press. The SF23 which Binotto and his team were responsible for was 1 second off in race pace.

Does this sound like the sort of individual you want running a technical team?

Ahhh 2019... That win in Monza was incredible...

Yeah there were some rough years, but 2022 wasn't the worst year we had. Charles ended the year with a string of podiums and we were 2nd in the WCC. I'm not saying he's the savior and not even saying he SHOULD come back. I just think he gets a lot of unfair criticism.

Where are we now? Binotto's gone, a bunch of his guys are gone, and what? We are now the 4th fastest car, our development team seem lost, it seems we are having more knee-jerk reactions to moments. I'm not convinced we are in a better spot.