mwillems wrote: ↑13 Jul 2024, 17:40
What coin? The coin you present as an example, where Will Joseph is suddenly not following the advice of strategists and agreeing a way forward with Stella and the rest of the team?
That coin doesn't exist, it's made up.
The big man is next to him, who didn't want to overrule the strategy team. Explain why Will Joseph trumps Stella and others, please?
Important to note, the only team radio made public is that between team and driver, not internal team comms.
Edit: If you want a name for who can alter the culture to get people making better decisions in crunch times in race, the name is Stella, not Joseph. The past few races at the very top have been his first mis-step in the progress of Mclaren, one which I'm sure he'll get on top of and one that is totally forgivable, particularly given everything he has done for the team.
You can't know what the strategy team was saying and what the dynamics were. The way Tom talked to Piastri seems to indicate strategy team thought the mediums are the best tyre and yet Lando heard "softs to cover Hamilton, mediums to cover Verstappen".
I don't think anyone should blame Will Joseph solely for this, I think it is clear that Lando likes and wants that type of talk where he has a large say in the decision making. I think this is wrong as he does not have all the data and giving him hard decisions to make in critical moments of the race is putting too much on his shoulders. Maybe someone like Alonso, Hamilton or (now) Verstappen can make the best call from inside the car but I don't think Lando is at that point in his career. To me, looking at Lando and his races in previous years it is obvious that he wants to be consulted like he was. This probably needs to change and decision making needs to be quicker and more decisive. They are still conservative (no double stack) which may be good for points average but will lead to them not getting wins when they are on offer.
To end it all, I think everyone in team is aware of what happened and from what I could gather from Stella, they will make some changes in how they do things so these things are done better in the future. I think Will Joseph is a great engineer and he has a good relationship with Norris so that shouldn't change, but they probably need to feed only critical info to Norris, not lay down all the options for Norris to pick.