We were also driving most of the time behind someone in Hungary compared to last year.
I don't buy it. Red Bull has been the top team. How could have this stayed on the down low completely ?Tommy.G wrote: ↑28 Jul 2024, 21:51Has anyone heard of any such thing???
https://www.sportskeeda.com/f1/news-red ... tqvqx6z76s
Tyre wear. They expected an advantage there and trust that their DRS delta would do the work. Which was a fair choice if the tyre situation didn’t turn out to be completely bizarre…
I don’t think it was a bad choice to be fair. Protected the tyres much better than the lower DF setup tested in FP2.
I was really surprised this didn't cause more noise, I was totally tilted to see that during the race. Max lost like 10 seconds of race time and the team gained exactly nothing. It was awful to see.
We know it won't be Tsunoda. Tsunoda is fine in a car like vcarb, he would be back to his 2021 ways in the top team.Jurgen von Diaz wrote: ↑28 Jul 2024, 22:39So, on monday, Pérez out and Tsunoda/Ricciardo in? Make it happen.
Not a rant. It is a spot-on criticism.Paa wrote: ↑29 Jul 2024, 01:15I was really surprised this didn't cause more noise, I was totally tilted to see that during the race. Max lost like 10 seconds of race time and the team gained exactly nothing. It was awful to see.
Perez should have moved away at around lap14.
Instead they were losing time from the front runners and Norris was making up 6 seconds on them.
What was even worse, that when Russell finally overtook Perez, he didn't move away from Max. Instead he created a 2s gap between George and Ver so essentially taking away the DRS from Max, while giving a DRS to Norris as he just closed in the from 2s to 1s during that time.Then they immediately boxed Perez, WTF was that? They didn't even try 1 more lap to hold Norris, giving some breathing space to Max. Like Checo was driving for McLaren or something.
He took away like 8-10s race time from Max, then take his DRS away from George and gave Norris a go on Ver. And for what? So Perez could conveniently sail in to 8th place with a pitstop gap? Perez was not in a fight for anything. Team would have lost exactly nothing, by 'sacrificing' Checo. This was a proper Leclerc-2022 treatment for Max.
Also Tsunoda cost like 2s for Max, fighting hard after his first stop, but that's much more understandable.
ps: sorry for the rant, I honestly couldn't believe what was happening. Barely noticed what happened in the race after this, I was so pissed.
Often we see a midfield team making a grear car, but their mentality keeps being midfield for a while.(Hmm... current McLaren for example)AR3-GP wrote: ↑29 Jul 2024, 02:16
Not a rant. It is a spot-on criticism.
I don't understand Red Bull anymore. They don't have any car advantage. Can they afford to make Verstappen run at Perez pace for 10 laps in a GP? Can they afford to give Norris 6 seconds in a GP? Why did they give up on winning by lap 13? Is this a team that is interested in winning races?
I will never forgive them for this race massacre. Max Verstappen carried this team since 2018 and to be treated like a #2 driver at a home race, for an engine penalty that was not his fault, when they so badly needed a positive result for Max is simply not forgivable. and for what? To make sure Perez finished 8th? Unforgivable.
Ricciardo never crashes the car. I can count on 1 hand the number of crashes that Ricciardo had in the last 5 years. Even when he could not drive the Mclaren, he never crashed it. With the budget situation, Red Bull need this. They cannot afford Tsunoda and Lawson.TeamKoolGreen wrote: ↑29 Jul 2024, 02:08
It is Lawson or Riccardo. It will probably be Riccardo which should be an improvement on current day Perez. But there's always a risk he goes full McLaren and just can't settle himself with the car. I dont see that happening with Lawson
After the race in Hungary, Max in a Dutch interview was telling that they have all the data to make decisions and if he has all that, he can make a decision himself and that he should think of installing it in his car.Paa wrote: ↑29 Jul 2024, 01:15I was really surprised this didn't cause more noise, I was totally tilted to see that during the race. Max lost like 10 seconds of race time and the team gained exactly nothing. It was awful to see.
Perez should have moved away at around lap14.
Instead they were losing time from the front runners and Norris was making up 6 seconds on them.
What was even worse, that when Russell finally overtook Perez, he didn't move away from Max. Instead he created a 2s gap between George and Ver so essentially taking away the DRS from Max, while giving a DRS to Norris as he just closed in the from 2s to 1s during that time.Then they immediately boxed Perez, WTF was that? They didn't even try 1 more lap to hold Norris, giving some breathing space to Max. Like Checo was driving for McLaren or something.
He took away like 8-10s race time from Max, then take his DRS away from George and gave Norris a go on Ver. And for what? So Perez could conveniently sail in to 8th place with a pitstop gap? Perez was not in a fight for anything. Team would have lost exactly nothing, by 'sacrificing' Checo. This was a proper Leclerc-2022 treatment for Max.
Also Tsunoda cost like 2s for Max, fighting hard after his first stop, but that's much more understandable.
ps: sorry for the rant, I honestly couldn't believe what was happening. Barely noticed what happened in the race after this, I was so pissed.