Reporting of posts

[Dunlay]

It would be useful if posts could be reported by more than one member. Currently, if someone reports a post no one else can. Multiple reports would show that a post is detrimental to the forum. As it stands now, a post can be reported and the report sat on by mods and that kills it. If multiple people can report a post, it puts pressure on mods to deal with it.

Currently, a single report can be ignored. True, multiple reports can be ignored but at least many members can then all say "I reported it". And that increases the chance that fairness is observed.

If the forum members didn't post low quality and argumentative efforts then perhaps moderation would not be as necessary?

Do you want strict, regressive and overbearing moderation, from guys who just want to support this site and have limited time to do so, or are there no adults in the room who can resist that usual nonsense and can shut down the posters when that tripe arrives?

Poster Question: How much is 1+1?
Mod Answer: Sky should not be Blue.

[CMSMJ1]

It would be useful if posts could be reported by more than one member. Currently, if someone reports a post no one else can. Multiple reports would show that a post is detrimental to the forum. As it stands now, a post can be reported and the report sat on by mods and that kills it. If multiple people can report a post, it puts pressure on mods to deal with it.

Currently, a single report can be ignored. True, multiple reports can be ignored but at least many members can then all say "I reported it". And that increases the chance that fairness is observed.

If the forum members didn't post low quality and argumentative efforts then perhaps moderation would not be as necessary?

Do you want strict, regressive and overbearing moderation, from guys who just want to support this site and have limited time to do so, or are there no adults in the room who can resist that usual nonsense and can shut down the posters when that tripe arrives?

Poster Question: How much is 1+1?
Mod Answer: Sky should not be Blue.

My personal opinion here

Why would you want more reports that in your view might not be addressed?

Moderator view.
I'm not bending my personal opinion to regard the groupthink of some posters. In my view, the only guidance I'll take will be from Steven directly, or from the other moderation team as I'm still thinking I'm a 'new' moderator and perhaps I should not get involved in these discussions .

The end of the day, this is Steven's forum and it matters not how much you guys want reporting to work, it matters how it works for the benefit, globally, of this place.

[hollus]

I mean you see that much more in the Ferrari and noticeably the McLaren thread. The latter near enough being a lap by lap discussion on whats happening through the race. Other threads such as the Merc or Red Bull ones, usually come more alive post race where events can be discussed. Which I think allows for a better 'flow of discussion' than that on a lap by lap basis. There are other channels to discuss lap by lap and it works well - there is the forum discord for that; the 'real time chat'.

I do like the Autosport method of posting - where by incidents or after race penalty's are able to be discussed on their own thread in merit. It means that 2 threads (if there is a multi team incident) aren't getting clogged up with each team discussing the topic in their 2024 team thread. It works VERY well in my opinion. Recent examples are the Hungary incident with Lewis/Max, or the George Russell disqualification. It makes one thread to discuss a topic and means that other threads aren't cluttered up with content that could be seen as off-topic for its original thread where it was being discussed.
Maybe that's something that could be looked at or implemented by the mods come next race - however I think it would mean that posters have to be more open to using that thread rather than the race/team threads, and moderators would have to be 'on top' of the posts that could be moved to a incident/penalty thread. I'm sure with a little bit of direction and coaching would get members discussing the incident/penalty in the right topic rather than where it happens currently.

Oh, but that is a great idea! The separate thread (say George’s DSQ last weekend) is sometimes tried and many times works wonders.
But for some reason in this forum most users are incredibly shy of opening the extra thread.
When mods come, say, 2 hours after the event see that a random user opened a separate thread like that and then went into, say, the relevant team thread and the race thread to drop a link and (try to softly) direct traffic, you can probably hear our shouted sigh of relief and perhaps a micro-earthquake when we say THANK YOU!!!
Of course after that it takes a bit of poster discipline, but frequent reminders often do the trick, and moving posts to the new home makes so much more sense then.
So go ahead!!! More often, please! Anyone can open threads, really!

BTW, the current drop in moderation speed is called holidays and life. It happens. Please don’t take advantage of it. If I have 5 minutes for the forum and see “that” street brawl, I am not going to touch it except for the worst nastiness.

[organic]

But the side tracking about mods doesn't answer the question about whether it is possible to allow multiple instances of post reporting.

A post that is reported once might be worthy of a mod slap or it might just be reported as revenge. A post reported separately by a number of forum users suggests a post worthy of more immediate mod attention. It acts as a triage filter, in effect. It allows ensures that limited mod resources can be focussed where they might do the most good, so a help to the mods as well.

100% agree with the idea of multiple reports. I can only assume it would make moderation easier

Maybe a controversial suggestion but if multiple reports are enabled, some sort of automoderation using a threshold number of reports from X number of other (reputable?) forum members could be implemented as a method to reduce burden on the moderators and decrease the time delay for flagrant rule-breaking posts to be removed. Though such a system could well be abused

[Greg Locock]

FWIW the mods do a thankless task and are certainly no worse here than other forums (FFS I am permabanned from posting to r/AutomotiveEngineering because I twice took the piss out of a mod who repeatedly posted fanboi youtubes with zero engineering content).

[Dunlay]

But the side tracking about mods doesn't answer the question about whether it is possible to allow multiple instances of post reporting.

A post that is reported once might be worthy of a mod slap or it might just be reported as revenge. A post reported separately by a number of forum users suggests a post worthy of more immediate mod attention. It acts as a triage filter, in effect. It allows ensures that limited mod resources can be focussed where they might do the most good, so a help to the mods as well.

100% agree with the idea of multiple reports. I can only assume it would make moderation easier

Maybe a controversial suggestion but if multiple reports are enabled, some sort of automoderation using a threshold number of reports from X number of other (reputable?) forum members could be implemented as a method to reduce burden on the moderators and decrease the time delay for flagrant rule-breaking posts to be removed. Though such a system could well be abused

It's actually nice to have auto moderation.
If a post is reported by X number of people, the post can automatically become invisible until a moderator wants to have a manual look at it. Saves loads of time and effort.
If multiple posts of the same poster is reported by multiple people in the same thread, the poster's ability to post further in the thread, for day becomes automatically restricted.
I am sure there are better ideas than what I have mentioned. It's time that this forum uses some level of auto moderation.

[chrisc90]

I mean you see that much more in the Ferrari and noticeably the McLaren thread. The latter near enough being a lap by lap discussion on whats happening through the race. Other threads such as the Merc or Red Bull ones, usually come more alive post race where events can be discussed. Which I think allows for a better 'flow of discussion' than that on a lap by lap basis. There are other channels to discuss lap by lap and it works well - there is the forum discord for that; the 'real time chat'.

I do like the Autosport method of posting - where by incidents or after race penalty's are able to be discussed on their own thread in merit. It means that 2 threads (if there is a multi team incident) aren't getting clogged up with each team discussing the topic in their 2024 team thread. It works VERY well in my opinion. Recent examples are the Hungary incident with Lewis/Max, or the George Russell disqualification. It makes one thread to discuss a topic and means that other threads aren't cluttered up with content that could be seen as off-topic for its original thread where it was being discussed.
Maybe that's something that could be looked at or implemented by the mods come next race - however I think it would mean that posters have to be more open to using that thread rather than the race/team threads, and moderators would have to be 'on top' of the posts that could be moved to a incident/penalty thread. I'm sure with a little bit of direction and coaching would get members discussing the incident/penalty in the right topic rather than where it happens currently.

Oh, but that is a great idea! The separate thread (say George’s DSQ last weekend) is sometimes tried and many times works wonders.
But for some reason in this forum most users are incredibly shy of opening the extra thread.
When mods come, say, 2 hours after the event see that a random user opened a separate thread like that and then went into, say, the relevant team thread and the race thread to drop a link and (try to softly) direct traffic, you can probably hear our shouted sigh of relief and perhaps a micro-earthquake when we say THANK YOU!!!
Of course after that it takes a bit of poster discipline, but frequent reminders often do the trick, and moving posts to the new home makes so much more sense then.
So go ahead!!! More often, please! Anyone can open threads, really!

BTW, the current drop in moderation speed is called holidays and life. It happens. Please don’t take advantage of it. If I have 5 minutes for the forum and see “that” street brawl, I am not going to touch it except for the worst nastiness.

More than happy to make such threads to discuss certain topics. Should be easily done to be fair - by anyone.

[djos]

But the side tracking about mods doesn't answer the question about whether it is possible to allow multiple instances of post reporting.

A post that is reported once might be worthy of a mod slap or it might just be reported as revenge. A post reported separately by a number of forum users suggests a post worthy of more immediate mod attention. It acts as a triage filter, in effect. It allows ensures that limited mod resources can be focussed where they might do the most good, so a help to the mods as well.

I couldn’t agree more with this!

I’ve been involved in scenarios where I’ve been trying to combat blatant misinformation (objectively diametrically opposed to published facts, not simply an opposing opinion) being posted to wind up others members (basic trolling), and there was immense frustration that nothing was being done.

How do I know this? Multiple private conversations where folk have reached out to me to vent about it.

If F1T had the ability for multiple reports per post, IMO it would allow the moderators to get a better sense of what is going on.

One other option that springs to mind is having a separate user rating for the team threads. This would allow users to “call bs” on misinformation / opinions based on hot air without resorting to reporting posts to moderators.

Ps, I’m not going to claim I’m a saint, I’ve let a situations get the better of me and gained a short holiday for my trouble.