2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
30 Aug 2024, 19:01
Isn't Leclerc on his last engine (and all other components as well)?
Isn't on Friday teams use past PUs, not actual ones?
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Xyz22 wrote:
30 Aug 2024, 19:03
Leclerc added the 4th engine last race.
Sainz is still on the third PU as of today. My opinion is that he will try to finish the season without penalties.
Typical of drivers who leave for next year, the team does not give them more engines. The same happened to Alonso in 2022.

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KimiRai wrote:
30 Aug 2024, 19:05
Xyz22 wrote:
30 Aug 2024, 19:03
Leclerc added the 4th engine last race.
Sainz is still on the third PU as of today. My opinion is that he will try to finish the season without penalties.
Typical of drivers who leave for next year, the team does not give them more engines. The same happened to Alonso in 2022.
Ferrari has always been extremely fair with Sainz. Different scenario.

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KimiRai wrote:
30 Aug 2024, 19:05
Typical of drivers who leave for next year, the team does not give them more engines. The same happened to Alonso in 2022.
Ferrari are in a very close fight for the WCC, I doubt they'd withhold an engine from Sainz if they thought it would help. If McLaren was 100 points ahead, then I could see them doing so.

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Xyz22 wrote:
30 Aug 2024, 19:06
KimiRai wrote:
30 Aug 2024, 19:05
Xyz22 wrote:
30 Aug 2024, 19:03
Leclerc added the 4th engine last race.
Sainz is still on the third PU as of today. My opinion is that he will try to finish the season without penalties.
Typical of drivers who leave for next year, the team does not give them more engines. The same happened to Alonso in 2022.
Ferrari has always been extremely fair with Sainz. Different scenario.
Maybe you are right. :wink:

ScuderiaLeo wrote:
30 Aug 2024, 19:09
Ferrari are in a very close fight for the WCC, I doubt they'd withhold an engine from Sainz if they thought it would help. If McLaren was 100 points ahead, then I could see them doing so.
That's a good argument, I hope they're fair to Sainz. It just seemed to me for a moment that they weren't going to give him any more.
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KimiRai wrote:
30 Aug 2024, 19:05
Typical of drivers who leave for next year, the team does not give them more engines. The same happened to Alonso in 2022.
:D :D :D
Good one
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Xyz22 wrote:
30 Aug 2024, 19:03
Leclerc added the 4th engine last race.
Sainz is still on the third PU as of today. My opinion is that he will try to finish the season without penalties.
When do we expect him to take the penalty?

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
30 Aug 2024, 19:30
Xyz22 wrote:
30 Aug 2024, 19:03
Leclerc added the 4th engine last race.
Sainz is still on the third PU as of today. My opinion is that he will try to finish the season without penalties.
When do we expect him to take the penalty?
Maybe even Leclerc will try it if they can use the third engine in some races (maybe Singapore?)
If he has to take an additional engine the best track to do it on paper is probably Brazil.

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Some interviews tidbits from today:
Jock Clear: This package is a response to the Barcelona package. [...] Generally speaking, our development path hasn't changed. But we realized that the bouncing was ruining all the developments we would bring, and so that's what we've been focused on. The difficulty lies in the fact that the wind tunnel only sees the aerodynamics and doesn't detect the bouncing over bumps. However, our models are still improving, and we're hopeful we can find a way to exploit the downforce.
Leclerc: It's been a pretty positive Friday. The overall feeling is good, and everything we brought to the car seems to be working as planned. Now, it's just about adjusting the balance, because there are still some things left to do. I think Sunday will be very difficult for everybody, due to the new tarmac and the tire degradation, so we'll need to concentrate on tire management then. [...] It still feels like McLaren are very strong, and Mercedes too, but we are much more competitive than in Zandvoort.
Also, this will be the hottest Monza GP in over 20 years! :o
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Piastri was on track to do the fastest lap by a huge margin by the way. Made a mistake at the Ascari.

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Leclerc started using again the technique of not lifting his foot completely in the corners, it's been a long time since we've seen him do it so markedly, especially already in free practice, a sign that the commitment is more than maximum and that the red of FP2 seemed to give him more confidence.
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yooogurt wrote:
30 Aug 2024, 20:24
Leclerc started using again the technique of not lifting his foot completely in the corners, it's been a long time since we've seen him do it so markedly, especially already in free practice, a sign that the commitment is more than maximum and that the red of FP2 seemed to give him more confidence.
Always great report by him! Thanks for sharing.

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ScottR267 wrote:
31 Aug 2024, 10:05
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Vanja #66 wrote:
30 Aug 2024, 21:19
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30 Aug 2024, 17:56
The holier than thou attitude doesn't come off very well "if you decide to accept facts" sounds so patronising, mind you saying people are small minded isn't a great look either but I don't think Sean is crazy to suggest that the Mercedes is the faster car recently (winnning races recently makes it at the very least debatable), certainly 1 or 2 good races doesn't mean the Ferrari is suddenly faster especially when its only performed at unique tracks like monza or monaco.

I know you're a veteran on the forum but I have noticed that you act as if your opinion is fact and the vast majority of users here are chatting bs, and then treat them like they are stupid. You may be knowledgable (especially technically) but that doesn't make your opinions defacto correct or more valid than anyone else, especially when speculating as to which car is better right now (something that changes from track to track anyway and thus is basically a pointless debate). I mean you tell him not to use personal insults while you call him ignorant "the other side keeps denying facts" and then dillusional "if you dedcide to accept facts", not exactly practicing what you preach is it?
Holier than thou? Veteran on forum? Come on mate, "pulling rank" like that is laughable anywhere, any time. What would that look like on a technical forum, among a bunch of engineers who are set to challenge any smidgen of authority by default? :lol:

Back to actual topic of discussion again, lets look at how Mercedes actually won races. Austria was pure luck on two accounts, first with Max and Lando crashing, second with Piastri failing in Q3 and having to work a lot to get back to the front and this put him out of realistic contest to inherit the win. McLaren and Red Bull were obviously better.

Isn't the question "are Merc faster than Ferrari right now?" and not did Merc deserve their wins? Your answer seems to mix in a lot of points I didn't think are relevant.

Definately they lucked some wins, but it doesn't feel like that was the point in question.

We're they legitimately ahead of Ferrari in those races feels like the question being debated.
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