2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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venkyhere wrote:
13 Sep 2024, 14:52
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13 Sep 2024, 12:41
Anybody having access to telemetry can check if S3 loss is from power or drag?

BTW, it seemed to me that Merc looks particularly quick there, rather than Red Bull really slow. Most teams lost multiple tenths to Merc in S3.
the keel of the floor is back to a 'big one' => lesser diffuser expansion, lower downforce from the floor (dialing back, aiming to get 'usable downforce' rather than 'lots of it' which was spoiling balance) => more share of downforce has to come from rear wing => more drag.
But they were going to use this rear wing regardless. So the drag level isn't higher than it would've been had they not brought this diffuser change. I think Mercedes simply have a very efficient package with their low downforce wing. They also ran it at spa successfully

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Perez is extremely quick.

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Naturally it looks good but we haven't seen McLaren push yet

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Max's S3 is atrocious, five tenths to Piastri !
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Sergej wrote:
13 Sep 2024, 15:28
Max's S3 is atrocious
Yeah don't really understand that one :|

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wow Perez is really on fire ! huge difference in S3 compared to Max

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Perez is a monster here. I just watched his onboard. This is a driver who understands where to "place" the car in the corners on this track.
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Sergej wrote:
13 Sep 2024, 15:33
wow Perez is really on fire ! huge difference in S3 compared to Max
Max's engine is way down in S3

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Max's engine is way down in S3

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXXBkcqWAAE ... &name=orig
This isn't comparing to Perez

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13 Sep 2024, 15:35
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Max's engine is way down in S3

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXXBkcqWAAE ... &name=orig
This isn't comparing to Perez
Indeed. But it's a huge difference to everyone else and Perez isn't losing 5 tenths in s3 like Max. So it's very likely to be him too unless Perez is actually about 1 second clear of the pack..

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Let's see the long runs.

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AR3-GP wrote:
13 Sep 2024, 15:35
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Max's engine is way down in S3

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXXBkcqWAAE ... &name=orig
This isn't comparing to Perez
Perez vs Max

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https://x.com/Fred__18/status/183458715 ... 09/photo/1

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organic wrote:
13 Sep 2024, 15:37
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13 Sep 2024, 15:35
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13 Sep 2024, 15:33


Max's engine is way down in S3

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXXBkcqWAAE ... &name=orig
This isn't comparing to Perez
Perez vs Max

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXXDQuoW4AA ... &name=orig

https://x.com/Fred__18/status/183458715 ... 09/photo/1
Thank you. Some work to do with Max's car but Perez is doing really well still imo.

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Verstappen had some kind of PU issue in Monza so it might just be that Red Bull are stretching the mileage on some very old PUs for free practice with his car. They don't have any margin with the PU pool to waste engine life in free practice. Perez's pool seems in a better place. I don't see any difference in the rear wings.

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I think Max is doing his long run on the medium set that might have minor bit of flat spotting on the front left, but he did say the tires were "okay" when he went back to the pits after he stopped at T5 earlier in the session.