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How about we just keep it how it is...
the less complicated the refuelling is, the less things there is to go wrong...
The time made up with this idea would make up, say, 0.5 of a second at the most... this time can be made up easily in the entry to the pit lane if the driver attacks it properly.
I'm sorry Manchild, the technology is valid, but to me it seems a lot of extra and unnecessary stuff that really serves no purpose. I just cannot see the driver being out of the loop, and as long as that happens, something simple like the lollipop serves well.
I'm sorry Manchild, the technology is valid, but to me it seems a lot of extra and unnecessary stuff that really serves no purpose. I just cannot see the driver being out of the loop, and as long as that happens, something simple like the lollipop serves well.
Why keep it "as it is"?!
How many pit crew members were injured due to "as it is"?
I don't see the logic in maintaining status quo regarding something that can be done much safer and faster with what I've suggested...
One more switch and a pin can hardly be considered as "a lot of extra and unnecessary stuff that really serves no purpose" .
Last edited by manchild on 08 Aug 2005, 19:11, edited 1 time in total.
This isn't about proving anyone right or wrong, it is just to air opinions.
I happen to have a very high opinion of manchild, for the wonderful innovations that come from his fertile brain, and the courage to put forwards his theories in a forum. Keep it up manchild, you're doing just fine.
I'm just speaking from my perspective, and experience. It's just an opinion from one person.
guys dont get me wrong, i love the way the human mind works and how people interpret and see thing different to others.
"necessity in the mother of invention"
and i thought that the fuel filler idea was fantastic.
dont know about it controling the clutch, but brilliant.
I'm more of a mechanic than engineer. I've had a lot of experience in being a wrench for a motocrosser, as well as a wee bit of road race cars. Even in such a mechanically simple device as a motocross motorcycle, there is so much that can go wrong. That is my perspective. I look for solutions, but I'm very aware of potential problems, and I tend to look on anything extra as "just something more that can go wrong".
Getting back to the original lollipop post, I really like this wonderful application . It's external to the race car, and cannot have a negative effect on it's performance. It's incredibly simple, just a mirrored surface. And it solves, or at least addresses certain issues. It gives the driver a rear view when he needs to know what is happening during a pit stop. In case of a fire or any other problem, he probalby has a few extra milliseconds to recognize and respond to the problem. And of course, it must cut down the response time between when the fuelling hose is withdrawn and when the driver elects to drive off.
There are probably other ways to address those issues, but to me, this mirrored lollipop is classic simplicity.
A few races back on Speed Channel the commentators were mentioning how they tried several times to get an answer from Ferrari (Ross Braun) as to why they had three LED lights on the front-top of the steering wheel. Seen only from the front and in a rearward view from a cockpit camera.
Braun finally relented and with a smile explained that the LEDs were intended as warning lights for the drivers of low RPMs, or something to that effect, The details escape me. But the LEDs were seen by the drivers while in the pits and while they concentrated on the mirrored lollipop. Apparently neither Rubens or Michael used them, and I guess that's why Braun finally relented.
But I suppose they could very well use the mirror in the lillipop for other things now.
