Lmao Charles had -10 temp on tyres when leaving garage.
This team man, zero discpline
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What do you reckon? H-M or M-H? How abrasive is this track?Vanja #66 wrote: ↑21 Sep 2024, 16:28Had a bad feeling the red flag was gonna mess up Leclerc and his reference points further as the track gets colder and it happened... Incredible how a shower washing the track down cost them so much in the end, they don't seem to able to quickly get the info on track grip levels and react on it on the track itself, same lower grip (than expected) hurt them a lot in China
Gonna be very hard to make up positions tomorrow, might be best to lower the pace and go long on Mediums (or full pace on Hards) and switch to Softs later. Leclerc has one set with a in-out laps and Sainz has another new set. Using softs at the start is gonna end up wasting them in the race
Honestly, no way that front left didn't touch the white line, they should make an appeal to see the evidence.Emag wrote: ↑21 Sep 2024, 16:32Lap was gone by T1 already. The rest is kind of useless because Charles was probably fuming :
https://streamin.me/v/837e4c01
Vasseur interview:The tires weren't ready at all, not even halfway ready. I left the pits and they were at minus... I don't even know how many degrees, 10 or 12 degrees, at the front. I don't know why. This was the only time it happened, and it was our only shot. I did my best to put them in the right temperature during the out lap, but it was hopeless. I arrived at T1 and knew it was bad. I went wide, and I knew it was going to be disastrous. I'm really disappointed because we did everything possible to make it to Q3 strong, and then we have this random issue. All I can say is that I'm disappointed. We had the potential for a 1-2 if we took risks in Q3, but we couldn't even do that because the tires weren't ready.
I don't want to talk about the race yet. For now, I'm too upset. We know how important qualifying is for this track, so the chance of winning is almost zero. I don't know what can be done from P9. We had the potential for much more and we wasted it. I'll reset and come back 100% tomorrow like usual, but for now, I'm disappointed. Maybe we can finish P5 or P6... P3, if there's a miracle.
So... the drivers and teams are giving opposite opinions on what happened...Charles went too wide at T2 so we were hit with track limits. And since we only had one shot in Q3 due to the red flag, as a result, we ended with no time. That's both cars without a time in Q3. It's a shame since we had pace before. Now, we just need to prepare for tomorrow. We've always had a better race pace than qualifying this year. It's not easy to overtake, but there are opportunities when it comes to strategy.
About Charles and the red flag, both driver error and tire temperature issues are possible. Conditions are difficult here, FP3 the track was hot, in qualifying it was cold. You can see the struggle with temperatures with everybody after the red flag. I think it was a succession of small mistakes. For Charles, he started the lap with the right temperature, so I need to talk to him about it.
Maybe we waited too long, we didn't want to be the first on track but this caused us to wait a bit in the pit lane. We were going for pole, so we waited as long as possible. We need to properly look at what happened with Charles' tires. Maybe it was a blanket issue, maybe the waiting, maybe something else.
Probably starting on the softs. If there is lap 1 carnage they get a better launch and then get to switch tyres for free. If not, they get a good launch and can easily hunt down the midfielders, then pit early onto hards and go long.Autobahn303 wrote: ↑21 Sep 2024, 16:34What do you reckon? H-M or M-H? How abrasive is this track?Vanja #66 wrote: ↑21 Sep 2024, 16:28Had a bad feeling the red flag was gonna mess up Leclerc and his reference points further as the track gets colder and it happened... Incredible how a shower washing the track down cost them so much in the end, they don't seem to able to quickly get the info on track grip levels and react on it on the track itself, same lower grip (than expected) hurt them a lot in China
Gonna be very hard to make up positions tomorrow, might be best to lower the pace and go long on Mediums (or full pace on Hards) and switch to Softs later. Leclerc has one set with a in-out laps and Sainz has another new set. Using softs at the start is gonna end up wasting them in the race
But in another interview, Fred just said Charles tyres just went wrong, either lost temperature bc waiting in pitlane or bc the blanket.ScuderiaLeo wrote: ↑21 Sep 2024, 16:54Leclerc interview:
Vasseur interview:The tires weren't ready at all, not even halfway ready. I left the pits and they were at minus... I don't even know how many degrees, 10 or 12 degrees, at the front. I don't know why, maybe the blankets stopped working. This was the only time it happened, and it was our only shot. I did my best to put them in the right temperature during the out lap, but it was hopeless. I arrived at T1 and knew it was bad. I went wide, and I knew it was going to be disastrous. I'm really disappointed because we did everything possible to make it to Q3 strong, and then we have this random issue. All I can say is that I'm disappointed. We had the potential for a 1-2 if we took risks in Q3, but we couldn't even do that because the tires weren't ready.
I don't want to talk about the race yet. For now, I'm too upset. We know how important qualifying is for this track, so the chance of winning is almost zero. I don't know what can be done from P9. We had the potential for much more and we wasted it. I'll reset and come back 100% tomorrow like usual, but for now, I'm disappointed. Maybe we can finish P5 or P6... P3, if there's a miracle.
So... the drivers and teams are giving directly opposite opinions on what happened...Charles went too wide at T2 so we were hit with track limits. And since we only had one shot in Q3 due to the red flag, as a result, we ended with no time. That's both cars without a time in Q3. It's a shame since we had pace before. Now, we just need to prepare for tomorrow. We've always had a better race pace than qualifying this year. It's not easy to overtake, but there are opportunities when it comes to strategy.
About Sainz and the red flag, both driver error and tire temperature issues are possible. Conditions are difficult here, FP3 the track was hot, in qualifying it was cold. You can see the struggle with temperatures with everybody after the red flag. I think it was a succession of small mistakes. For Leclerc, he started the lap with the right temperature, so I need to talk to him about it.
Yes, I just edited with that interview as well to my post.
