2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[jambuka]

Carlos has nothing to lose. He is out of Ferrari, has already signed for Williams. He knows he is not going to get any chance of podiums with Williams most likely. No one should expect Carlos to help Charles or Ferrari. He will of course be selfish and try and increase his podiums. Charles has outperformed him in qualifying, has dramatically improved his race craft now. Only way for Carlos to feel good about the situation is by beating Charles.

[yooogurt]

Carlos has nothing to lose. He is out of Ferrari, has already signed for Williams.

Well if he wants back on a top team he needs to be a team player or have speed like Charles/Max.
What he performed today will obviously not add any good point to his resume to return to the tops.

[f1316]

The most exciting thing, of course, is that the car was still competitive on this more traditional circuit - I think that’s all the confirmation we need in the efficacy of the Monza floor and bodes well for the rest of the year.

Even more so if you think that most other cars brought updates and the “final upgrade” Fred spoke about must therefore still be in the pipeline .

It's funny how these primary details get lost when everything works out From a "4th car" to a regular win challenger everywhere with one floor update Exceptional job by Tondi and the whole aero and chassis team

Agree it’s been a great job and they didn’t panic but instead took the time to understand the problem and bit by bit introduce mitigations/solutions. More importantly, as you’ve pointed out before, is likely the updates to the rolling road tools that should help avoid future missteps (albeit I’m sure all teams will continue to have some in this rules cycle).

I think I’m understanding the subtext in what you’re saying, ie that it was never as bad as made out and there were always mitigating circumstances on the days Ferrari were “4th fastest”. If so, I agree with that. That said, there was also clearly an issue with the Barcelona floor - which everyone in the team acknowledged - and in that sense one floor upgrade (to make good on what that floor was supposed to bring) really did make a big difference.

[scuderiabrandon]

Terrible race management. Its at the point where we have to hope they don't run behind each other even if it is at the detriment of the team because this useless inter team fighting cost us points anyway. We really could've fought Max there, passed Norris and Russell soooooooo much earlier.

[LM10]

The most exciting thing, of course, is that the car was still competitive on this more traditional circuit - I think that’s all the confirmation we need in the efficacy of the Monza floor and bodes well for the rest of the year.

Even more so if you think that most other cars brought updates and the “final upgrade” Fred spoke about must therefore still be in the pipeline .

It's funny how these primary details get lost when everything works out From a "4th car" to a regular win challenger everywhere with one floor update Exceptional job by Tondi and the whole aero and chassis team

Absolutely - hats off to the team. They’ve kept on holding on their own floor philosophy and finally mastered it. They seem to be able to not lose any of the exceptional race pace while strengthening the weak spots the car has had.

We’re really lucky to have those alien drivers putting the fourth fastest car on the podium almost every time.

[dialtone]

The car is fine. They obviously know now how to extract performance out of the floor. The car is a lot closer than in Silverstone where LEC was out in q2 and SAI 0.7 off.

We’re done with it while MCL and RBR are going to bring more updates.

This was a fine quali, they improved on most of their issues.

I will toot my own horn here just pre-qualifying, in case any pessimism comes back in.

[Vanja #66]

Agree it’s been a great job and they didn’t panic but instead took the time to understand the problem and bit by bit introduce mitigations/solutions. More importantly, as you’ve pointed out before, is likely the updates to the rolling road tools that should help avoid future missteps (albeit I’m sure all teams will continue to have some in this rules cycle).

I think I’m understanding the subtext in what you’re saying, ie that it was never as bad as made out and there were always mitigating circumstances on the days Ferrari were “4th fastest”. If so, I agree with that. That said, there was also clearly an issue with the Barcelona floor - which everyone in the team acknowledged - and in that sense one floor upgrade (to make good on what that floor was supposed to bring) really did make a big difference.

Yeah, it's never been 4th fastest car, at the low point it was at worst equal to Merc but they had favourable cold races to save them from deg and McLaren/Norris wasting their chances weekend after weekend...

I'm really curious about updates, it seems they delayed them to Mexico to leave room for evaulation and setup, hopefully new WT pays dividends already. I think their design approach can yield more improvement still and I don't think SF25 will be a minor step forward from final SF24 spec

[yooogurt]

I'm really curious about updates, it seems they delayed them to Mexico to leave room for evaulation and setup, hopefully new WT pays dividends already. I think their design approach can yield more improvement still and I don't think SF25 will be a minor step forward from final SF24 spec

Do we need these upgrades? So the top 3 in the WCC will give a lot of profit for the 2026 car.

[JPower]

Carlos has nothing to lose. He is out of Ferrari, has already signed for Williams.

Well if he wants back on a top team he needs to be a team player or have speed like Charles/Max.
What he performed today will obviously not add any good point to his resume to return to the tops.

Showing he has pace to challenge Leclerc will absolutely add good points to his resume.

Regardless, its laughable to think Lewis Hamilton of all people wouldn’t do the same in the situation when it inevitably happens next season.

[Space-heat]

I'd take P3-4 right now. If Charles can get T1 and S1 high speed right P2 is on. I think Norris' time might be too far.

[jambuka]

I'd take P3-4 right now. If Charles can get T1 and S1 high speed right P2 is on. I think Norris' time might be too far.

Need Leclerc special, still would be p2

[JPower]

That’ll do it.

[ScuderiaLeo]

Sainz was on for P2 with that run... ughhh.

[Vanja #66]

Well, at least Ferrari wasn't screwed up a lot by a Q3 incident for a change... The big question is - will Leclerc go for a one-stop with good pace on Hards this year?

[Space-heat]

Carlos was up 2 tenths before S3 on the last run v Charles.

Charles could not get the turn in at T1.

Sainz was on for P2 with that run... ughhh.

Seem like Sainz was a tenth down on VER on the last run. The S3 on the first run were near the same. Seems like nothing would have changed.