2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[deadhead]

I really feel bad for Sainz, this is so undeserved to be dropped like that by Ferrari. It would be kind of sick if Lewis would the win WDC next year on top of the work that Sainz amongst others have done. As Sainz himself mentioned during the post qualifying press conference.

He can't be mad for losing his seat to a Hamilton, but being overlooked for a seat in Red Bull or Mercedes is telling

Harsh truth.

[Xyz22]

Without the --- rookie + pirelli clownshow this would have been a 1-2 lockout with Sainz P1 and Leclerc P2.

[jambuka]

Without the --- rookie + pirelli clownshow this would have been a 1-2 lockout with Sainz P1 and Leclerc P2.

For sure. Bearman is driving for Haas next year. Why wasn't he in a Haas for fp1? Damage + less time/data for leclerc did not help.

[Fakepivot]

bit of tech question, how comes other team running less cooling outlets compared to Ferrari.
From what I read more cooling outlets = more drag, but Ferrari still ended up with a pole. are other team running less power ?

[codetower]

I think Sainz, unfortunately, will get overtaken at the start. It seems inevitable at this track. I just hope both him and Charles are careful and patient. I think they can definitely achieve a 1-2 here. Just be smart about it.

[bananapeel23]

bit of tech question, how comes other team running less cooling outlets compared to Ferrari.
From what I read more cooling outlets = more drag, but Ferrari still ended up with a pole. are other team running less power ?

Ferrari also had much better top speed than McLaren. I read somewhere that they were about 5kph faster than McLaren in the speed trap.

I remember also hearing murmurs on F1TV yesterday about the Ferrari engine possibly coping better with the high altitude than the competition. The Ferrari engine is known to be pretty different from the other 3 engines, with it having a smaller turbo and not a split turbo concept. If the rumours of the Ferrari engine performing extra well here are true, it would likely have something to do with their unique turbo.

Remember that Mexico was one of the 3 races Ferrari could have conceivably won on merit in 2023, along with Vegas and Singapore. Their engine being good in Mexico doesn't appear to be a fluke. (Disregard 2022 where they didn't bring enough cooling)

[Vanja #66]

bit of tech question, how comes other team running less cooling outlets compared to Ferrari.
From what I read more cooling outlets = more drag, but Ferrari still ended up with a pole. are other team running less power ?

It's not more than others actually, it's about the same extra cooling on every car. RB has a massive central outlet and extra louvres, McLaren opened up 2-3 times more louvres than usual + engine cover ooening around the shark fin, Mercedes also has extra outlets

[F1NAC]

I think Sainz, unfortunately, will get overtaken at the start. It seems inevitable at this track. I just hope both him and Charles are careful and patient. I think they can definitely achieve a 1-2 here. Just be smart about it.

Not really. Max went well last year after red flag restart

[f1316]

bit of tech question, how comes other team running less cooling outlets compared to Ferrari.
From what I read more cooling outlets = more drag, but Ferrari still ended up with a pole. are other team running less power ?

Ferrari also had much better top speed than McLaren. I read somewhere that they were about 5kph faster than McLaren in the speed trap.

I remember also hearing murmurs on F1TV yesterday about the Ferrari engine possibly coping better with the high altitude than the competition. The Ferrari engine is known to be pretty different from the other 3 engines, with it having a smaller turbo and not a split turbo concept. If the rumours of the Ferrari engine performing extra well here are true, it would likely have something to do with their unique turbo.

Remember that Mexico was one of the 3 races Ferrari could have conceivably won on merit in 2023, along with Vegas and Singapore. Their engine being good in Mexico doesn't appear to be a fluke. (Disregard 2022 where they didn't bring enough cooling)

Based on nothing other than intuition/correlation, I have the sense that the Ferrari might be coping better. Consider:

(1) relatively good performance for Haas and even Sauber (vs how competitive they normally)
(2) the fact that going into Q3 both Ferraris took a leap in performance vs Q2 for the second consecutive year. I have a suspicion that they are holding back a bit of engine mode here (on the electrical side, since they can’t change ICE modes during quali) which in turn allows them to go harder on it for short bursts

Might be complete rubbish - and certainly hearsay - but I just get the sense that they took a big lesson from 2022 and came back with a better approach for Mexico than other PU manufacturers.

[Fakepivot]

looks like cloudy and low temp could help other team here.. bit worring..

[wowgr8]

bit of tech question, how comes other team running less cooling outlets compared to Ferrari.
From what I read more cooling outlets = more drag, but Ferrari still ended up with a pole. are other team running less power ?

Ferrari engine is less efficient and has always needed more cooling compared to Merc and Honda, this was very noticeable pre 2022 when it was all about shrinkwrapped sidepods. Merc and RB could have teeny tiny sidepods and outlets, the Ferrari ones were bigger

[dialtone]

bit of tech question, how comes other team running less cooling outlets compared to Ferrari.
From what I read more cooling outlets = more drag, but Ferrari still ended up with a pole. are other team running less power ?

Ferrari engine is less efficient and has always needed more cooling compared to Merc and Honda, this was very noticeable pre 2022 when it was all about shrinkwrapped sidepods. Merc and RB could have teeny tiny sidepods and outlets, the Ferrari ones were bigger

Aside from the minor detail of the massive air intake above the head of the driver.

[Emag]

bit of tech question, how comes other team running less cooling outlets compared to Ferrari.
From what I read more cooling outlets = more drag, but Ferrari still ended up with a pole. are other team running less power ?

Ferrari engine is less efficient and has always needed more cooling compared to Merc and Honda, this was very noticeable pre 2022 when it was all about shrinkwrapped sidepods. Merc and RB could have teeny tiny sidepods and outlets, the Ferrari ones were bigger

I am fairly certain that was an aero choice. Ferrari did have bigger sidepods, but their centerline was by far the thinnest. Nevertheless, if you go by "extrapolation" from laptime data, I would argue that actually Ferrari might have the best power unit on the grid.

[DoctorRadio]

bit of tech question, how comes other team running less cooling outlets compared to Ferrari.
From what I read more cooling outlets = more drag, but Ferrari still ended up with a pole. are other team running less power ?

Ferrari engine is less efficient and has always needed more cooling compared to Merc and Honda, this was very noticeable pre 2022 when it was all about shrinkwrapped sidepods. Merc and RB could have teeny tiny sidepods and outlets, the Ferrari ones were bigger

The Ferrari PU is a completely new design from 2022 onwards and Ferrari has never gone for centerline cooling, so it’s normal that Ferrari’s sidepods were bigger at the time (also due to a less efficient PU, not the case today).

[dia6olo]

I hope both Sainz and Lec get through the opening corners without incidents regardless off positions, their race pace should be very competitive and it could easily prove to be the best race pace.
They both need to stay clean!