2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[chrisc90]

Gaining a lasting advantage. Interesting.

[Sergej]

disaster weekend in terms of points, and we have the engine penalty awaiting us in Brazil, not good

Silver lining. If Max didn't disrupt Norris, Norris could have won and Max would have finished 4th (13 points loss). As it ended, Norris came P2 and Max P6, so the loss is only 10 points.

Car is garbage though.

I don't care. I really disliked Max's attitude today, what could be so hard in just cruise behind Lando without those stupid moves ? at this point I fear that he will throw away more points in the next races if he happens to be in similar situations. I'm really let down right now.

[AR3-GP]

None of the remaining tracks suit Red Bull

Brazil: Bad in 2022. Mclaren already nipping at their heels in 2023
Qatar: No front end
Las Vegas: street track, curbs, bumps...
Abu Dhabi: Slow speed corners, bad.

[proteus]

6th was best he could do, even without the ridiculous penalties. Mercedes was faster , as well as Haas on hard tyres.

He did his best to hold the McLaren at the start and give the Ferrari some headstart but Leclerc did a mistake. At least Sainz delivered.

Ridiculous penalties? Him driving like a donkey is what is ridiculous and it was about time he got hit for it. Ramming an opponent off the road third time in a row is over the top, especially since it was allready happening before...

[Silent Storm]

Well, that was terrible. Stupid driving from Max against Lando in the opening. 1st one I dont think was a penalty, the 2nd one was IMHO. Still not even going to try make excuses for that.

10points loss to Lando now. 48points in 4 races plus a sprint.

I did say 10points loss would be about where we wanted to be. But could have done more damage limitation.

Lets hope thats the worst of the remaining 4 races.

How? I just don't see it, pace was terrible in second stint.

Not getting +20s added to the time would have been nice tbh.

If Max hadn't done what he did to get 20 seconds penalty, Lando would have won the race.

[Vanja #66]

Max pushes ver the limit in T4, but T8 penalty was total BS. Total joke, to quote one particularly brilliant brain from Mercedes

Okish damage limitation with P6, I had him at P5 before the weekend and losing 15p to Norris tbh. If he wasn't so hot with Norris, would have been -6p, so just 4p more lost is not that bad

[Gillian]

Well, that was terrible. Stupid driving from Max against Lando in the opening. 1st one I dont think was a penalty, the 2nd one was IMHO. Still not even going to try make excuses for that.

10points loss to Lando now. 48points in 4 races plus a sprint.

I did say 10points loss would be about where we wanted to be. But could have done more damage limitation.

Lets hope thats the worst of the remaining 4 races.

How? I just don't see it, pace was terrible in second stint.

Not getting +20s added to the time would have been nice tbh.

20 seconds is a joke and kneejerk reaction after last race. He deserved only 1 penalty imo. But he still held up Norris long enough to avoid a win for him. If Leclerc would have been slightly less unlucky, Norris would have been P3.

[Emag]

Max pushes ver the limit in T4, but T8 penalty was total BS. Total joke, to quote one particularly brilliant brain from Mercedes

Okish damage limitation with P6, I had him at P5 before the weekend and losing 15p to Norris tbh. If he wasn't so hot with Norris, would have been -6p, so just 4p more lost is not that bad

That was actually the worse one of the two. Did you see the onboards? He just blasted into the inside and pushed Lando off while going halfway across the country himself too.

[PierreW]

6th was best he could do, even without the ridiculous penalties. Mercedes was faster , as well as Haas on hard tyres.

He did his best to hold the McLaren at the start and give the Ferrari some headstart but Leclerc did a mistake. At least Sainz delivered.

Ridiculous penalties? Him driving like a donkey is what is ridiculous and it was about time he got hit for it. Ramming an opponent off the road third time in a row is over the top, especially since it was allready happening before...

Yes, ridiculous, he only deserved 10 seconds, or maybe even 5 seconds like Norris last time.

But there is a huge anti Verstappen campaign and some people want Norris and McLaren to win and bring back the title to the british islands.

The FIA even said they were thinking about changing the rules to penalize Max eventough he acted brilliantly last week following these rules.

[FNTC]

Max lost 10 points to Lando by doing what he did, but if he didn't do it, Lando might have won the race, and even if Max without any penalties got 4th, that would have been 13 points more to Lando. So didn't it work out OK for Max considering the car he has at the moment?

[Vanja #66]

Max pushes ver the limit in T4, but T8 penalty was total BS. Total joke, to quote one particularly brilliant brain from Mercedes

Okish damage limitation with P6, I had him at P5 before the weekend and losing 15p to Norris tbh. If he wasn't so hot with Norris, would have been -6p, so just 4p more lost is not that bad

That was actually the worse one of the two. Did you see the onboards? He just blasted into the inside and pushed Lando off while going halfway across the country himself too.

Late brake and understeer, was fully ahead of Norris. Lando should have left him room and switch back easily, Max would have looked like a total amateur in that case

[proteus]

6th was best he could do, even without the ridiculous penalties. Mercedes was faster , as well as Haas on hard tyres.

He did his best to hold the McLaren at the start and give the Ferrari some headstart but Leclerc did a mistake. At least Sainz delivered.

Ridiculous penalties? Him driving like a donkey is what is ridiculous and it was about time he got hit for it. Ramming an opponent off the road third time in a row is over the top, especially since it was allready happening before...

Yes, ridiculous, he only deserved 10 seconds, or maybe even 5 seconds like Norris last time.

But there is a huge anti Verstappen campaign and some people want Norris and McLaren to win and bring back the title to the british islands.

The FIA even said they were thinking about changing the rules to penalize Max eventough he acted brilliantly last week following these rules.

These penalties were long due. The stupidities he is performing this year should award him a race ban in my opinion. And this comes from a someone who actually likes him. Even if Lando doesnt get the title, he is a class above in the racing culture this season. Max went far too dirty, sore loser to say the least and RedBull is willing to throw away the WCC for it as well.

[PierreW]

Ridiculous penalties? Him driving like a donkey is what is ridiculous and it was about time he got hit for it. Ramming an opponent off the road third time in a row is over the top, especially since it was allready happening before...

Yes, ridiculous, he only deserved 10 seconds, or maybe even 5 seconds like Norris last time.

But there is a huge anti Verstappen campaign and some people want Norris and McLaren to win and bring back the title to the british islands.

The FIA even said they were thinking about changing the rules to penalize Max eventough he acted brilliantly last week following these rules.

These penalties were long due. The stupidities he is performing this year should award him a race ban in my opinion. And this comes from a someone who actually likes him. Even if Lando doesnt get the title, he is a class above in the racing culture this season. Max went far too dirty, sore loser to say the least and RedBull is willing to throw away the WCC for it as well.

Yes, I am sure you are very unbiased with this avatar.

Norris is good, but the fact that Verstappen retain a lead so far with a car this bad speak volume about his driving superiority at this moment.

[Paa]

I'm not sure why Max didn't let Norris back? Anybody has the radio? I would like to know what the team suggested to him.
I think the whole penalty/investigation could have been avoided by giving the place back. It was extremely clear he would get some kind of penalty. It was blatantly ignorant.
I also did not like his driving. I usually don't mind him going slightly over the limit in a calculated manner as he usually does, but this was just mindless rampage. A but like Hungary.
Even when he had the new hard tyre and had to overtake some slower cars, he mindlessly pushed on the part of track where the overtake was not on. He clearly could have take it easy on those parts of the track and still be within striking distance by the DRS, but he was driving with anger. This probably costed some pace at the end.

Car is slow, that's clear, but 4th place was on with a smarter driving.

I think he should change his mindset for the last 4 races. He needs to realize, that he doesn't even need to beat Lando. It is enough to follow him home. No need for these high risk/low return kind of stuff what he did today.

[search]

On German Sky, Marko just confirmed that another engine penalty for Verstappen looks likely indeed. +5 only, though.

He said that Qatar may be a chance for a win, while Interlagos with its slow corner whould suit them less. So I'd assume he'll take it next week.