2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

[chrisc90]

Even a Max DNF would still be a huge thing for Lando to beat.

I covered it in the RBR team thread here:
viewtopic.php?p=1254933#p1254933

The realistic finishing positions for max that case is about 5th in all remaining races.

[hollus]

Guys, seriously, if your post is mostly about Max, not here.
Warnings have started to happen for repeated off-topics.

Find the right threads.

If you find it relevant, drop a link in this thread, but move the discussions to the right threads.

[McL-H]

Upcoming GP we need a front row lockout. Stay as far away from Max as we can and just focus on beating both Ferrari’s. It’s all McLaren can and must do. Red Bull should not be a threat in Brazil. Most important thing is that we really need Piastri up there. Lando may have to drive defensively, but Oscar doesn’t. Let’s take advantage of that. He really needs to up his game though. He’s had 2 seasons now to adapt. Time to bring in the results. We need it.

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[Mansell89]

Hopefully the correlation continues - they have delivered some excellent development this past 18 months.

[PapayaFan481]

Hopefully the correlation continues - they have delivered some excellent development this past 18 months.

The investment in and wait for the new wind tunnel is paying off!!

[TeamKoolGreen]

What are the chances that McLaren could lose the constructors to Ferrari in the next 4 races ? Norris almost has to avoid crashing with Max to at least get the constructors. Losing the WCC now would be a huge blow.

[TeamKoolGreen]

Lots of wishful thinking here. Truth is Norris blew his opportunity to win the WDC when he had a similar points gap to Max post Miami and post the summer break. Max qualified 2nd in Mexico, he will probably qualify top 3 in the remaining races. It's done.

Norris didn't blow it. The team and Piastri blew it for him.

And all of those actions might also cost the WCC if they aren't lucky.

[deargodhelpme]

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CYVN Holdings, the firm in question, has entered into a non-binding agreement with Mumtalakat, the sovereign wealth fund of Bahrain, with any deal agreed seeing it take 100 per cent control of the automotive side and gain a non-controlling stake McLaren Group, which also oversees the operations of its Formula 1, IndyCar and FIA Formula E teams.

[BMMR61]

Lots of wishful thinking here. Truth is Norris blew his opportunity to win the WDC when he had a similar points gap to Max post Miami and post the summer break. Max qualified 2nd in Mexico, he will probably qualify top 3 in the remaining races. It's done.

Norris didn't blow it. The team and Piastri blew it for him.

And all of those actions might also cost the WCC if they aren't lucky.

You guys carrying on like clickbaiters. Really, armchair experts, McLaren were not expected to challenge for any titles in 2024, just the odd win. Suddenly they are being called "fastest" and "dominant". Both are very arbitrary, especially in a season of such small margins. F1 hasn't always been like Mercedes 2014 - 2020 and Red Bull 2021 - 2023. Seven drivers have won GPs in 4 different cars (sorry Checo). Catching Max was always going to be difficult with his early season wins. Then one person suggested Lando could overhaul 80 points (never been done before) and everyone is on the bandwagon. Some people were suggesting Oscar should be made to play the donkey with 10 races to go. McLaren were messing up. People got so invested in their desire for another champion for whatever reasons.

Even with some of the wheel to wheel failings of Lando, it's just unfair. He has only had a truly competitive car since Miami, Max has had a competitive car for 4 years and has developed his race craft enormously. Even if Lando (or Oscar) don't rise to Max's brilliant best he (they) deserve our tremendous respect. We the fans aren't owed anything. Sure there's been times where McLaren's race strategies have been somewhat.... green, Hungary, Silverstone mainly, leading the WCC came as a lovely surprise. I agree it will be a bitter pill but to say Oscar could cost them the WCC is frankly outrageous. His Baku win was arguably the gutsiest of the year in a car which was not the clear fastest.

[Dazmacca5700]

Lots of wishful thinking here. Truth is Norris blew his opportunity to win the WDC when he had a similar points gap to Max post Miami and post the summer break. Max qualified 2nd in Mexico, he will probably qualify top 3 in the remaining races. It's done.

Norris didn't blow it. The team and Piastri blew it for him.

And all of those actions might also cost the WCC if they aren't lucky.

You guys carrying on like clickbaiters. Really, armchair experts, McLaren were not expected to challenge for any titles in 2024, just the odd win. Suddenly they are being called "fastest" and "dominant". Both are very arbitrary, especially in a season of such small margins. F1 hasn't always been like Mercedes 2014 - 2020 and Red Bull 2021 - 2023. Seven drivers have won GPs in 4 different cars (sorry Checo). Catching Max was always going to be difficult with his early season wins. Then one person suggested Lando could overhaul 80 points (never been done before) and everyone is on the bandwagon. Some people were suggesting Oscar should be made to play the donkey with 10 races to go. McLaren were messing up. People got so invested in their desire for another champion for whatever reasons.

Even with some of the wheel to wheel failings of Lando, it's just unfair. He has only had a truly competitive car since Miami, Max has had a competitive car for 4 years and has developed his race craft enormously. Even if Lando (or Oscar) don't rise to Max's brilliant best he (they) deserve our tremendous respect. We the fans aren't owed anything. Sure there's been times where McLaren's race strategies have been somewhat.... green, Hungary, Silverstone mainly, leading the WCC came as a lovely surprise. I agree it will be a bitter pill but to say Oscar could cost them the WCC is frankly outrageous. His Baku win was arguably the gutsiest of the year in a car which was not the clear fastest.

Excellent summary

[Macafangrskg]

The weather is not to our favor

https://www.accuweather.com/en/br/aut%C ... 180172_poi

The Sprint Qualification and Fp1 with wet then on Friday the Sprint Race and Race Qualification in dry and high propabily for wet race day.

Interlagos is known for some wacky races in the wet

[PapayaFan481]

Norris didn't blow it. The team and Piastri blew it for him.

And all of those actions might also cost the WCC if they aren't lucky.

You guys carrying on like clickbaiters. Really, armchair experts, McLaren were not expected to challenge for any titles in 2024, just the odd win. Suddenly they are being called "fastest" and "dominant". Both are very arbitrary, especially in a season of such small margins. F1 hasn't always been like Mercedes 2014 - 2020 and Red Bull 2021 - 2023. Seven drivers have won GPs in 4 different cars (sorry Checo). Catching Max was always going to be difficult with his early season wins. Then one person suggested Lando could overhaul 80 points (never been done before) and everyone is on the bandwagon. Some people were suggesting Oscar should be made to play the donkey with 10 races to go. McLaren were messing up. People got so invested in their desire for another champion for whatever reasons.

Even with some of the wheel to wheel failings of Lando, it's just unfair. He has only had a truly competitive car since Miami, Max has had a competitive car for 4 years and has developed his race craft enormously. Even if Lando (or Oscar) don't rise to Max's brilliant best he (they) deserve our tremendous respect. We the fans aren't owed anything. Sure there's been times where McLaren's race strategies have been somewhat.... green, Hungary, Silverstone mainly, leading the WCC came as a lovely surprise. I agree it will be a bitter pill but to say Oscar could cost them the WCC is frankly outrageous. His Baku win was arguably the gutsiest of the year in a car which was not the clear fastest.

Excellent summary

Except the part about Max developing his race craft, when the last two races have shown that not to be the case!!

[PapayaFan481]

What are the chances that McLaren could lose the constructors to Ferrari in the next 4 races ? Norris almost has to avoid crashing with Max to at least get the constructors. Losing the WCC now would be a huge blow.

Pretty reasonable to be honest. Ferrari have come on song as the best possible time for them in terms of WCC.

Of the remaining 4 tracks only Qatar is not expected to suit them.

Realistically McLaren have the advantage, because we have a points lead, but we need Oscar to be back on form and both drivers to avoid any collisions.

If we have a DNF, then Ferrari will likely take over the lead.

Still 2nd in both championships, given how the season started, would still be an amazing achievement.

Can you imagine the response you'd have gotten in 2022 if you suggested we'd be where we are now!!

[bauc]

The weather is not to our favor

https://www.accuweather.com/en/br/aut%C ... 180172_poi

The Sprint Qualification and Fp1 with wet then on Friday the Sprint Race and Race Qualification in dry and high propabily for wet race day.

Interlagos is known for some wacky races in the wet

If we want to be champions, we must be fast in all conditions on all tracks