2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

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Luscion
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I dont know why people just say "its cause hes old" when in 2022 and just last season he beat Russell in the quali h2h, got their only pole and scored the majority of Merc's points. Shovlin and Allison have also said its a car that just doesnt suit him and it was something they were working on giving him, the car is also notorious for swings in performance for no reason and having an unstable rear end, something Lewis needs. Look at what Alonso could do when they gave him a competitive car in the first half of the season last year at the age of 42
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GrizzleBoy
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Once again guys, it was literally just months ago that Lewis used his skills in the rain to not just beat his team mate, but to win two races.

It was just a year ago that he basically got the team the WCC position they got mostly on his own and was challenging for P2 in the WDC, with George falling over himself all over the place and finishing in P8.

Lewis is having his absolute worst season in F1 in his entire career, yet he is leading George in the WDC and will likely only JUST lose to George by the end of the year. And this is supposed to mean George is doing a good job?

I fully understand the age thing, but i dont understand people thinking he just forgot how to be a good driver since last year or even forgot how to drive in the wet despite using the rain to win two races just months ago.

The maths arent really adding up to the story being told.

He just doesnt have the support from the team anymore, he is the number two driver, he is not privy to the technical details of the workings of their car. Remember Japan this year, he asked if he should move over for his team mate. When has that ever happened?

Its just weird to see people discount all of that to make arguments like: "driver who won races on two wet weekends THIS YEAR isnt capable of driving in changeable conditions anymore".

Dunlay
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Luscion wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 15:36
I dont know why people just say "its cause hes old" when in 2022 and just last season he outscored Russell in the h2h, got their only pole and scored the majority of Merc's points. Shovlin and Allison have also said its a car that just doesnt suit him and it was something they were working on giving him, the car is also notorious for swings in performance for no reason and having an unstable rear end, something Lewis needs. Look at what Alonso could do when they gave him a competitive car in the first half of the season last year at the age of 42
Did we watch different series' in 2022 where Lewis beat George?

Luscion
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Dunlay wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 15:56
Luscion wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 15:36
I dont know why people just say "its cause hes old" when in 2022 and just last season he outscored Russell in the h2h, got their only pole and scored the majority of Merc's points. Shovlin and Allison have also said its a car that just doesnt suit him and it was something they were working on giving him, the car is also notorious for swings in performance for no reason and having an unstable rear end, something Lewis needs. Look at what Alonso could do when they gave him a competitive car in the first half of the season last year at the age of 42
Did we watch different series' in 2022 where Lewis beat George?
i'm talking about the quali h2h, Russell beat him on points. should have worded that better

Luscion
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Lewis' car looks horrendous, cant even pass midfield cars and reporting bouncing

Jdn1327
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Wow, Lewis has really lost his talent. Washed up driver.

Luscion
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Jdn1327 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:09
Wow, Lewis has really lost his talent. Washed up driver.
yup its lewis' fault not the car, he's the one making the car bounce too :roll:

Luscion
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Now Russell is reporting brake issues, same with Ham, car wont stop for him

j_ste
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Did George say he wanted to stay out?

Jdn1327
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Luscion wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:11
Jdn1327 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:09
Wow, Lewis has really lost his talent. Washed up driver.
yup its lewis' fault not the car, he's the one making the car bounce too :roll:
Same car leading the race unfortunately

ToffeeTyres
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Jdn1327 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:09
Wow, Lewis has really lost his talent. Washed up driver.
The car isn’t set obviously not set up right is the reason plus the brake issue. Russell’s car is softer spring hence why Hamilton car is bouncing badly and Russell’s isn’t. Not washed up that’s just an easy excuse for someone like you who has no clue

FittingMechanics
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Both Mercedes noted for tyre pressure infringement.

On the grid and when the race start was aborted, between the 10 minutes and the 5 minutes signal,
on car numbers 63 and 44, the tyre pressures were adjusted (pressure released) with wheels
already fitted to the car.
As this is in contradiction to TD003 N, items 2. c) and 2. h) i., I am referring this matter to the
stewards for their consideration

ToffeeTyres
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ToffeeTyres wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:53
Jdn1327 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:09
Wow, Lewis has really lost his talent. Washed up driver.
The car is obviously not set up right is the reason plus the brake issue. Russell’s car is softer spring hence why Hamilton car is bouncing badly and Russell’s isn’t. Not washed up that’s just an easy excuse for someone like you who has no clue

ToffeeTyres
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ToffeeTyres wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:54
ToffeeTyres wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:53
Jdn1327 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:09
Wow, Lewis has really lost his talent. Washed up driver.
The car is obviously not set up right is the reason plus the brake issue. Russell’s car is softer sprung hence why Hamilton car is bouncing badly and Russell’s isn’t. Not washed up that’s just an easy excuse for someone like you who has no clue

Luscion
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FittingMechanics wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:53
Both Mercedes noted for tyre pressure infringement.

On the grid and when the race start was aborted, between the 10 minutes and the 5 minutes signal,
on car numbers 63 and 44, the tyre pressures were adjusted (pressure released) with wheels
already fitted to the car.
As this is in contradiction to TD003 N, items 2. c) and 2. h) i., I am referring this matter to the
stewards for their consideration
so thats a DSQ for both drivers if true, right?