2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

[venkyhere]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/how- ... /10670452/

Stella says it was not a driving issue, but a brake-lockup issue with front axle.
Why wasn't this problem present during wet qualifying on the same inter tyres, when the car has lesser fuel load and the driver is even more aggressive with the brake pressure ? Norris was P1 by a huge margin, wasn't he ?
Anyone has more info on this ? Curious to know, before I make up mind that Stella is simply protecting his drivers from the media (as a good TP should).

[FittingMechanics]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/how- ... /10670452/

Stella says it was not a driving issue, but a brake-lockup issue with front axle.
Why wasn't this problem present during wet qualifying on the same inter tyres, when the car has lesser fuel load and the driver is even more aggressive with the brake pressure ? Norris was P1 by a huge margin, wasn't he ?
Anyone has more info on this ? Curious to know, before I make up mind that Stella is simply protecting his drivers from the media (as a good TP should).

Piastri did lock up on his final run in Q3 and went off at T1 so looks like there is something to this.

Potentially the car was easy to lock up but if you nailed it just right, it didn't happen. In the race it's hard to really nail it every lap because the conditions changed so much.

[Emag]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/how- ... /10670452/

Stella says it was not a driving issue, but a brake-lockup issue with front axle.
Why wasn't this problem present during wet qualifying on the same inter tyres, when the car has lesser fuel load and the driver is even more aggressive with the brake pressure ? Norris was P1 by a huge margin, wasn't he ?
Anyone has more info on this ? Curious to know, before I make up mind that Stella is simply protecting his drivers from the media (as a good TP should).

If a car is prone to specific handling characteristics/problems, it is not unreasonable at all to assume a driver could drive around (or get lucky) to avoid the problems for a lap or two (i.e qualifying).

But over the course of the grand prix, it becomes harder to maintain consistency and at some point you will run into the issue.

It also could explain why Lando was on the brink of being out of Q1. A series of burned laps + cautious driving until he found a “sweet spot” for the right feel and tried to replicate that throughout.

With changing conditions that becomes harder and harder.

[Balalu]

People criticizing Lando and Oscar are easily forgetting their impressive record of finishing races. This is one of the main reasons McLaren are leading the WCC.

Criticizing Lando and Oscar for their mistakes while hyping up Leclerc in the same sentence is pure hypocricy.

[mwillems]

People criticizing Lando and Oscar are easily forgetting their impressive record of finishing races. This is one of the main reasons McLaren are leading the WCC.

Criticizing Lando and Oscar for their mistakes while hyping up Leclerc in the same sentence is pure hypocricy.

Which post(s) did that?

Actually don't answer. There's often one or two, if everyone ignores them, it goes away. Most were having a civil conversation I felt.

[Farnborough]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/how- ... /10670452/

Stella says it was not a driving issue, but a brake-lockup issue with front axle.
Why wasn't this problem present during wet qualifying on the same inter tyres, when the car has lesser fuel load and the driver is even more aggressive with the brake pressure ? Norris was P1 by a huge margin, wasn't he ?
Anyone has more info on this ? Curious to know, before I make up mind that Stella is simply protecting his drivers from the media (as a good TP should).

Piastri did lock up on his final run in Q3 and went off at T1 so looks like there is something to this.

Potentially the car was easy to lock up but if you nailed it just right, it didn't happen. In the race it's hard to really nail it every lap because the conditions changed so much.

There seemed to be a developed problem from too little brake pressure causing a variation in brake disc surface friction around the disc.
GR had something too, described as "warped" disc from his assessment of pedal vibration.

Possible present here too ?

[ScuderiaLeo]

People criticizing Lando and Oscar are easily forgetting their impressive record of finishing races. This is one of the main reasons McLaren are leading the WCC.

Criticizing Lando and Oscar for their mistakes while hyping up Leclerc in the same sentence is pure hypocricy.

The only race Leclerc hasn't finished this year was due to an engine failure, so I'm not sure why you randomly brought him up...

Though you're right that Norris' cautious driving style isn't always a bad thing. It has largely kept him out of trouble (in terms of crashes and penalties) and kept him in contention. I don't see it as a negative trait, but rather there are both pros and cons to being "ruthless" like some want him to be.

[Balalu]

People criticizing Lando and Oscar are easily forgetting their impressive record of finishing races. This is one of the main reasons McLaren are leading the WCC.

Criticizing Lando and Oscar for their mistakes while hyping up Leclerc in the same sentence is pure hypocricy.

The only race Leclerc hasn't finished this year was due to an engine failure, so I'm not sure why you randomly brought him up...

Though you're right that Norris' cautious driving style isn't always a bad thing. It has largely kept him out of trouble (in terms of crashes and penalties) and kept him in contention. I don't see it as a negative trait, but rather there are both pros and cons to being "ruthless" like some want him to be.

It's not that he did not finish races, but rather cracking under pressure sometimes. I highly respect Leclerc and his abilities. I literally picked up on him randomly out of the many names being thrown around. I was just pointing out how hypocrit some people are being. This includes McLaren fans.

[Balalu]

I, for one, am extremly grateful for Lando, Oscar, Stella, Zak, and the whole McLaren team for putting the team back in this situation. For me WCC is more important this year and somehow feels like redemption for 1999, 2008. Hopefully we get it this time.

[mwillems]

https://www.planetf1.com/news/lando-nor ... die-jordan

[michl420]

There is lots of talk here NOR vs. PIA. My view is that there are in a very opposing position. Norris drive it the last years just for points. For me he has not the raw talent but learns and is now very fast in calculated racing distances. He don´t take risks and brings many points home. Piastri is very talented and has not much to lose and take risks. This brings sometimes the win (Baku) and sometimes you lose (Brazil). Sometimes this is better sometimes that. The best ,of course, would be both.
Also the history tells, for a driver title, minimize riscs.(and have the fastest car )

[taperoo2k]

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That's pretty much what I've been trying to say for a while now. Lando has a lot to learn in terms of handling the pressure of a title fight, when to drive with caution and when to get ruthless. Max, Lewis and Alonso know how to do that.

I think Oscar has improved a lot over last season, sure he's made some mistakes. But he's also had some sublime drives as well. My hope remains that McLaren will win the constructors this season. I always thought the drivers title was a long shot given Max's points advantage.

If it's Lando or Oscar leading the drivers title standings next season? I'll cheer both of them on. McLaren first and foremost.

[taperoo2k]

People criticizing Lando and Oscar are easily forgetting their impressive record of finishing races. This is one of the main reasons McLaren are leading the WCC.

Criticizing Lando and Oscar for their mistakes while hyping up Leclerc in the same sentence is pure hypocricy.

The only race Leclerc hasn't finished this year was due to an engine failure, so I'm not sure why you randomly brought him up...

Though you're right that Norris' cautious driving style isn't always a bad thing. It has largely kept him out of trouble (in terms of crashes and penalties) and kept him in contention. I don't see it as a negative trait, but rather there are both pros and cons to being "ruthless" like some want him to be.

It's not that he did not finish races, but rather cracking under pressure sometimes. I highly respect Leclerc and his abilities. I literally picked up on him randomly out of the many names being thrown around. I was just pointing out how hypocrit some people are being. This includes McLaren fans.

Leclerc has learned from his mistakes, some of them unforced errors due to pressure. It's something drivers learn to deal with and if they don't? They become number 2's and eventually find themselves outside of F1.

[mwillems]

https://www.planetf1.com/news/lando-nor ... die-jordan

That's pretty much what I've been trying to say for a while now. Lando has a lot to learn in terms of handling the pressure of a title fight, when to drive with caution and when to get ruthless. Max, Lewis and Alonso know how to do that.

I think Oscar has improved a lot over last season, sure he's made some mistakes. But he's also had some sublime drives as well. My hope remains that McLaren will win the constructors this season. I always thought the drivers title was a long shot given Max's points advantage.

If it's Lando or Oscar leading the drivers title standings next season? I'll cheer both of them on. McLaren first and foremost.

Well there's two contrasting opinions in there, which is why I thought it was a decent read. One suggesting that Lando will learn and grow, from DC, and EJ saying that Lando hasn't ever demonstrated that he can ever be on Maxs level and therefore he thinks he won't step up.

[taperoo2k]

https://www.planetf1.com/news/lando-nor ... die-jordan

That's pretty much what I've been trying to say for a while now. Lando has a lot to learn in terms of handling the pressure of a title fight, when to drive with caution and when to get ruthless. Max, Lewis and Alonso know how to do that.

I think Oscar has improved a lot over last season, sure he's made some mistakes. But he's also had some sublime drives as well. My hope remains that McLaren will win the constructors this season. I always thought the drivers title was a long shot given Max's points advantage.

If it's Lando or Oscar leading the drivers title standings next season? I'll cheer both of them on. McLaren first and foremost.

Well there's two contrasting opinions in there, which is why I thought it was a decent read. One suggesting that Lando will learn and grow, from DC, and EJ saying that Lando hasn't ever demonstrated that he can ever be on Maxs level and therefore he thinks he won't step up.

Lando doesn't need to be on Max's level. He just has to perfect his own driving style and be smarter in how he approaches Max. Max is beatable, Lewis almost managed it in 2021.
Pretty sure Lando will learn a lot from this season.