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James
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Especially when Ferrari turn the A/C of the garage up to the same temperature the tire warmers used to reach :D
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marcush.
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microwave tyre heating is banned in F1,Super Aguri had this planned If I remember correctly.

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ISLAMATRON wrote:the power consumption is not negligable, think about having 16 ovens on in each pit for each car, for hours on end... it is absurd.

Assume each tire/wheel warmer is 1Kw, 4 per set, 1 set of wets, 1 of Inters, and 1 of each type of slicks, 16 tires= 16 Kw for at least 4 hours(very conservative) every day so that is 64Kw-hours per car per day and 192Kw-hours for the weekend, multiplied by an estimated 24 cars on the grid next year, so a low estimate of 4600 Kw-hours over 1 race weekend or about half the yearly usage of the average US household.(which we know is extremely wasteful to begin with)

Yes it is probably much less than the energy of just shipping it worldwide but still a good bit of energy wasted to get the tires up to temp when the tires would reach the same temps in a couple of laps or so.
Don't think you'll be heating a set of wets, inters, prime slicks, and option slicks all at the same time.

Even if it is 192 KW-hours for a weekend, big deal. The engine in the car is gonna dump that much energy in 30 minutes.

With regard to microwave heating, you don't know what that's going to do to the rubber.
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James wrote:Especially when Ferrari turn the A/C of the garage up to the same temperature the tire warmers used to reach :D
precisely my thoughts: is there anything preventing the teams from storing their tyres in some "hot spot" of the garage? like maybe in front of the hot-air exhaust of the AC equipment

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ISLAMATRON
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just make a rule like the one that exists for the fuel rigs, that they have to be kept within a certain amount close to the FIA ambient.

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King Six
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ISLAMATRON wrote:the power consumption is not negligable, think about having 16 ovens on in each pit for each car, for hours on end... it is absurd.

Assume each tire/wheel warmer is 1Kw, 4 per set, 1 set of wets, 1 of Inters, and 1 of each type of slicks, 16 tires= 16 Kw for at least 4 hours(very conservative) every day so that is 64Kw-hours per car per day and 192Kw-hours for the weekend, multiplied by an estimated 24 cars on the grid next year, so a low estimate of 4600 Kw-hours over 1 race weekend or about half the yearly usage of the average US household.(which we know is extremely wasteful to begin with)

Yes it is probably much less than the energy of just shipping it worldwide but still a good bit of energy wasted to get the tires up to temp when the tires would reach the same temps in a couple of laps or so.
Wow, that's actually horrific if somewhat accurate :shock:

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don't understand the point about microwave heating being banned
last year slicks were banned , this year they are not ...what's the difference

the technology is already tried and tested ...it has already been used in competition...Audi put their last win at le mans down to it's use

and , of course , there would be a big reduction in energy use :)
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