2024 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

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Alonso was in top 10 in FP1, any chances for Q3 this race.

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collindsilva wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 07:04
Alonso was in top 10 in FP1, any chances for Q3 this race.
I don't think so...

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OnEcRiTiCaL wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 09:04
collindsilva wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 07:04
Alonso was in top 10 in FP1, any chances for Q3 this race.
I don't think so...
No progress whatsoever, if no threat to P5 in WCC, they need to do something different for the next races or test parts for 2025.

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Sanchez cooked something at Alpine. This show that with only one good upgrade/package everything changes

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I wouldnt worry too much about the results in the remaining races if they are terrible, its just a season to forget.

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McCullough revealed that between them they’ll share the responsibilities relinquished by Fallows, led by Bell.

“Overall, Bob’s been overseeing technical functions,” explained McCullough.

“I report to Bob, as Dan did, and, you know, as Luca does.

“We have strength in depth, really, within the team, so those roles have been shared.

“We have Eric on the aero side, taking on quite a lot of the roles at this stage, but, yeah, ultimately, Bob’s the one responsible.”
https://www.motorsportweek.com/2024/11/ ... departure/

So Bell is temporarily in charge just as Benson reported, until Newey and Cardile arrive.
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KimiRai wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 11:41
I wouldnt worry too much about the results in the remaining races if they are terrible, its just a season to forget.
Yeah, but the demotivating thing is all their talk about focusing on 2026, meaning the whole 2025 season too might be a season to forget. But lets hope they come up with a somewhat decent car for 25 at least, and then Newey can improve on it from March.

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KimiRai wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 11:41
I wouldnt worry too much about the results in the remaining races if they are terrible, its just a season to forget.
Even if the 5th place is not mathematically secured yet there is no more point on trying to spend resources to maybe find a tenth or two before the end of the season. Three GPs left to just damage limitation and gathering data for next season.

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1.4 seconds off the Mercedes on softs in FP2, behind even Bottas... Maybe the Williams is slower so far, but that's about it.

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Komatsu, who replaced Guenther Steiner as Haas team principal at the beginning of the year, said the team lacked faith in its ability to improve their car by upgrading it during the season.

“One of the main issues we had in previous years was that Haas was not able to develop the car in-season,” he told The Fast and the Curious. “We weren’t able to put upgrades on the car that works.”

“And then there were certain people saying previously that, well, an upgrade is a waste of time, it never works, we shouldn’t do it. But to me it’s the opposite. When the upgrade doesn’t work, you’ve got to really find out why your upgrade doesn’t work. It’s got to work.”

Teams can’t expect to progress in F1 if they don’t upgrade their cars during the year, said Komatsu. “To be competitive in Formula 1 you have to be able to develop the car in-season, there’s no doubt. And then if it wasn’t working, you’ve got to get to the bottom of why it didn’t work.”

He said the team has been able to address the problem by restructuring its technical division. “The two drivers are the ones telling you what the issues of the car is. So really you’ve got to understand that, then you’ve got to communicate that well to the guys back home.”

“In our case, the guys in Italy, who’s basically designing the car, designers and aerodynamicists. So that closed loop communication working together was the key. So that required a change of structures and moving certain people who I believed weren’t in the right roles and then put the right people in the right place, having a structure that promotes that closed loop communication.”
https://www.racefans.net/2024/11/21/rac ... p-21-11-7/

You may recall how there has been talk of internal divisions between the track team and the factory in AM... Maybe Aston could learn something from what Komatsu is saying here. Better communication and driver feedback being key

On communication: what if having expanded the operation so much in such a short time, both in terms of staff and infrastructure, has broken down the feeling of a close-knit team that existed previously?
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FNTC wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 12:49
1.4 seconds off the Mercedes on softs in FP2, behind even Bottas... Maybe the Williams is slower so far, but that's about it.
I believe Sauber brought more upgrades. I wouldn't rule out Williams not being faster. They have to shake down what are basically new cars.

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Tom McCullough is Aston Martin F1 team's performance director.... For him to say "“The performance of the team this year hasn’t been at the level that we’ve all been wanting it to be at" is insane.

Dan Fallows was not working alone on the AMR24

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This final part of the year reminds me of Alonso's worst periods in F1 (in terms of car performance, not him obviously). This makes you understand many things, how they worked, etc. 2025 must be a year in which you either fight to win or aim for 2026, if there is a middle ground you are back to square one

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Sherrinford wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 19:03
This final part of the year reminds me of Alonso's worst periods in F1 (in terms of car performance, not him obviously). This makes you understand many things, how they worked, etc. 2025 must be a year in which you either fight to win or aim for 2026, if there is a middle ground you are back to square one
Alonso fans who lived through the McHonda era are resilient enough. Alonso himself obviously is.

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Nikosar wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 17:48
Tom McCullough is Aston Martin F1 team's performance director.... For him to say "“The performance of the team this year hasn’t been at the level that we’ve all been wanting it to be at" is insane.

Dan Fallows was not working alone on the AMR24
“We haven’t quite delivered there, and [dismissing Fallows has] been a decision made by the team.”

Team would be "Performance Director Tom McCullough, Deputy Technical Director Eric Blandin, Engineering Director Luca Furbatto and Executive Director – Technical, Bob Bell".