Well... you'll have to ask him, I guess.
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It benefits Honda to have customers putting mileage on the PUs and allowing them to gain more data at each track. The exclusivity deal never made sense.KimiRai wrote: ↑22 Nov 2024, 18:17Several sources say that a new 11th American team could join by 2026 and as it would be a customer at the start, it is likely that either Ferrari or Honda will be called upon to supply them with engines.
Didn't Honda sign an exclusive deal with Aston Martin? If that happens, not so exclusive anymore right?
On the extra mileage and data, I've thought similarly, only running two cars could be a problem perhaps... imagine pre-season testing and you have a reliability issue which takes hours to fix or switch components. That is very poor mileage. If you had more cars then it would be considerably more mileage and dataAR3-GP wrote: ↑22 Nov 2024, 18:25It benefits Honda to have customers putting mileage on the PUs and allowing them to gain more data at each track. The exclusivity deal never made sense.KimiRai wrote: ↑22 Nov 2024, 18:17Several sources say that a new 11th American team could join by 2026 and as it would be a customer at the start, it is likely that either Ferrari or Honda will be called upon to supply them with engines.
Didn't Honda sign an exclusive deal with Aston Martin? If that happens, not so exclusive anymore right?
I assume the "exclusivity" comes from AMR wanting to be the collaborator for the PU layout similar to what RBR had before.KimiRai wrote: ↑22 Nov 2024, 18:42On the extra mileage and data, I've thought similarly, only running two cars could be a problem perhaps... imagine pre-season testing and one of them has a reliability issue which takes hours to fix or switch components. You would only have a single car left doing laps. That is very poor mileage. If you had four cars then it would be considerably more mileage and dataAR3-GP wrote: ↑22 Nov 2024, 18:25It benefits Honda to have customers putting mileage on the PUs and allowing them to gain more data at each track. The exclusivity deal never made sense.KimiRai wrote: ↑22 Nov 2024, 18:17Several sources say that a new 11th American team could join by 2026 and as it would be a customer at the start, it is likely that either Ferrari or Honda will be called upon to supply them with engines.
Didn't Honda sign an exclusive deal with Aston Martin? If that happens, not so exclusive anymore right?
But to be honest I have no real clue so who knows. There might be more benefits we are not aware of. I think it's more likely to be Ferrari based on the previous deal with AM
Motorsport says Ferrari is the most likely option over Honda,KimiRai wrote: ↑22 Nov 2024, 18:17Several sources say that a new 11th American team could join by 2026 and as it would be a customer at the start, it is likely that either Ferrari or Honda will be called upon to supply them with engines.
Didn't Honda sign an exclusive deal with Aston Martin? If that happens, not so exclusive anymore right?
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-ge ... /10675252/In the first two seasons the team will have to use a customer power unit, with a possible supply from Ferrari (the most likely option) or alternatively Honda. Red Bull and Audi are not among the engine manufacturers with the obligation to supply a customer, as they are both rookies, while the Mercedes power unit already equips four of the ten teams present.
Honda is the most likely candidate, beyond the fact it is already favourable given Honda's track record with Red Bull in the most recent years of the turbo-hybrid era.
There is potentially a good foundation to come to an agreement naturally, as GM and Honda have recent history working together in the US, on projects such as the development of the hybrid system for the latest IndyCar engine.
Honda will also have a new UK site to support its F1 programme, so geographically it is a more logical choice for a GM team than, say, Ferrari in Italy.
It's dissapointing that both outlets are not actually reporting anything from inside sources. They are pretty much just doing what we are doing on the forum...except we don't charge for itKimiRai wrote: ↑23 Nov 2024, 23:37The Race says that Honda is the most likely candidate instead. Certainly swimming against the tide at the moment
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/new- ... -fallback/
Honda is the most likely candidate, beyond the fact it is already favourable given Honda's track record with Red Bull in the most recent years of the turbo-hybrid era.
There is potentially a good foundation to come to an agreement naturally, as GM and Honda have recent history working together in the US, on projects such as the development of the hybrid system for the latest IndyCar engine.
Honda will also have a new UK site to support its F1 programme, so geographically it is a more logical choice for a GM team than, say, Ferrari in Italy.
. In that case it's even worse, for sure.