Cadillac racing in F1 with Andretti

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Zynerji
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Of course it's for the money.... And advertising... and Merch sales.... and ticket sales... OMG.

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Mosin123 wrote:
31 May 2024, 16:47
FW17 wrote:
31 May 2024, 12:21
Mosin123 wrote:
31 May 2024, 10:16


Is money not the reason Andretti wants in? i didnt see him kicking up a fuss when teams was losing a fortune and walking a tight line between competing and bankruptcy - now they all make a nice sized profit he wants in..

its a new found dedication now f1 is in a little golden age.
That is BS, if it was the case FOM could have stipulated a no sale clause for a certain number of years.
Whats BS? that he only wants in for money? Show me where before F1 started its little golden age, Andretti trying to get into F1?
He was one of the bidders of force india. He lost out because the entire process was tailored for stroll to take over.

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FW17 wrote:
01 Jun 2024, 02:12
Mosin123 wrote:
31 May 2024, 16:47
FW17 wrote:
31 May 2024, 12:21


That is BS, if it was the case FOM could have stipulated a no sale clause for a certain number of years.
Whats BS? that he only wants in for money? Show me where before F1 started its little golden age, Andretti trying to get into F1?
He was one of the bidders of force india. He lost out because the entire process was tailored for stroll to take over.
I bet the US DoJ that is currently investigating the matter will seriously use that as a weapon against the FIA...

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RBR, Merc, and the rest of the teams want Andretti to buy an existing team for one reason: setting a comparative value for their own worth. There are estimates, but no one really knows what the teams are worth. Were Andretti to buy Williams, just for example, for $1B, it gives Horner and Wolff the ability to show that their teams are worth $3-5B. They’re both businessmen as much as team principals. And it’s a good strategy. It takes team value out from the shadows right when F1 is at its most popular. They don’t get that if Andretti just comes in as a new team. It’s just like the housing market in the US. It’s difficult to know what a home is worth if nothing has sold in your neighborhood for 10 years, so you’d love to have your neighbor’s house sell for double what you bought yours for.

Btw, the values I mentioned are example only, I’m not saying that’s what they’re actually worth.
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Zynerji wrote:
01 Jun 2024, 02:44
FW17 wrote:
01 Jun 2024, 02:12
Mosin123 wrote:
31 May 2024, 16:47


Whats BS? that he only wants in for money? Show me where before F1 started its little golden age, Andretti trying to get into F1?
He was one of the bidders of force india. He lost out because the entire process was tailored for stroll to take over.
I bet the US DoJ that is currently investigating the matter will seriously use that as a weapon against the FIA...
The DoJ? :lol: :lol: Yeah, I'm sure they'll be all hot and bothered about F1 adopting a franchise style system. It's not like every major sports league in America does it. Or maybe they should investigate the NBA, NFL, NHL and MLB as well?

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FW17 wrote:
01 Jun 2024, 02:12
Mosin123 wrote:
31 May 2024, 16:47
FW17 wrote:
31 May 2024, 12:21


That is BS, if it was the case FOM could have stipulated a no sale clause for a certain number of years.
Whats BS? that he only wants in for money? Show me where before F1 started its little golden age, Andretti trying to get into F1?
He was one of the bidders of force india. He lost out because the entire process was tailored for stroll to take over.
Isnt that when f1 started its path to its current golden era? After Liberty made its plans for f1 known and values of teams, income for teams and so on started growing strongly? after budget caps and so on was introduced........ it wasnt tailored for Stroll, a good few on the grid didnt want stroll in, Andretti failed to make an acceptable offer. eg tried to get force india on the cheap. he then tried the same with Sauber, offering just half of what Audi paid........... Not a lot of determination here for some one so so keen to get into f1. and 0 intrest before teams value started to growing..........

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Zynerji wrote:
01 Jun 2024, 02:44
FW17 wrote:
01 Jun 2024, 02:12
Mosin123 wrote:
31 May 2024, 16:47


Whats BS? that he only wants in for money? Show me where before F1 started its little golden age, Andretti trying to get into F1?
He was one of the bidders of force india. He lost out because the entire process was tailored for stroll to take over.
I bet the US DoJ that is currently investigating the matter will seriously use that as a weapon against the FIA...
The FIA?? You mean FOM surely??
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Zynerji wrote:
01 Jun 2024, 02:44
FW17 wrote:
01 Jun 2024, 02:12
Mosin123 wrote:
31 May 2024, 16:47


Whats BS? that he only wants in for money? Show me where before F1 started its little golden age, Andretti trying to get into F1?
He was one of the bidders of force india. He lost out because the entire process was tailored for stroll to take over.
I bet the US DoJ that is currently investigating the matter will seriously use that as a weapon against the FIA...
No. It'll be FOM not the FIA. If anything, the FIA will see this as a chance to extract more cash out of
FOM.

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After Maffei stepped down (or was he forced to step down to get anti-trust/competition probes away?) it seem GM could get an entry with Cadillac in 2026 in place of Andretti Global

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/gm-c ... /10675255/
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Vanja #66 wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 11:55
After Maffei stepped down (or was he forced to step down to get anti-trust/competition probes away?) it seem GM could get an entry with Cadillac in 2026 in place of Andretti Global

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/gm-c ... /10675255/
Craig Slater talked about this on Sky F1 Youtube vid saying he talked to a few figures who said this and own engines for 2028. But the video got taken down

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They posted job adverts in LinkedIn for team members already, seems like it's happening.
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Long time lurker, hey everyone!

These guys are saying Ferrari supply from '26-28 until the caddy motor comes online. Also that GM is interested in supplying engines to others...

https://www.autoguide.com/auto/motorspo ... m-44614678
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nessuno wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 16:30
Long time lurker, hey everyone!

These guys are saying Ferrari supply from '26-28 until the caddy motor comes online. Also that GM is interested in supplying engines to others...

https://www.autoguide.com/auto/motorspo ... m-44614678
Motorsport also says Ferrari is the most likely option over Honda,
In the first two seasons the team will have to use a customer power unit, with a possible supply from Ferrari (the most likely option) or alternatively Honda. Red Bull and Audi are not among the engine manufacturers with the obligation to supply a customer, as they are both rookies, while the Mercedes power unit already equips four of the ten teams present.
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-ge ... /10675252/

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Wish it is named Andretti Honda till 2028

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On the contrary, The Race says that Honda is the most likely candidate instead. Certainly swimming against the tide at the moment :)

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/new- ... -fallback/
Honda is the most likely candidate, beyond the fact it is already favourable given Honda's track record with Red Bull in the most recent years of the turbo-hybrid era.

There is potentially a good foundation to come to an agreement naturally, as GM and Honda have recent history working together in the US, on projects such as the development of the hybrid system for the latest IndyCar engine.

Honda will also have a new UK site to support its F1 programme, so geographically it is a more logical choice for a GM team than, say, Ferrari in Italy.