2024 Qatar Grand Prix - Lusail, Nov 29 - Dec 01

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Still cold-ish ... a while ago it was Qatar that was even harder dan S'pore according to half the field right ?

I see 24C for quali, 25 for race ..

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Those temps are Saturday and Sunday at noon, not in the evening when the quali (9 PM) and race (7 PM) take place.

I was looking at the real temp instead of the ambient temp (because of winds).
Might be a dusty weekend ..

Regarding those lateral loads and wear, last year most made it a 3-stop race iirc ?

Last year they had a maximum stint length instituted due to cuts being found on the tyres after the sprint caused by the aggressive curbs. One imagines this will have been fixed for this season?

[Vettel165]

Max pole lap from last year.

[SiLo]

Since when did we stop using DNF notation and start using OUT? Such a dumb change.

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Those temps are Saturday and Sunday at noon, not in the evening when the quali (9 PM) and race (7 PM) take place.

I was looking at the real temp instead of the ambient temp (because of winds).
Might be a dusty weekend ..

Regarding those lateral loads and wear, last year most made it a 3-stop race iirc ?

Last year they had a maximum stint length instituted due to cuts being found on the tyres after the sprint caused by the aggressive curbs. One imagines this will have been fixed for this season?

They've rounded off the tips of the curbs on 7 corners of the track and tested the tires already with samples of the new curbs

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/how-t ... /10676676/

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Changes to the kerbs and gravel traps added

[AR3-GP]

Changes to the kerbs and gravel traps added

https://i.imgur.com/M0uNy3z.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/rNncHn8.jpeg

The removal of the curbs is good for Mercedes and Red Bull.

[langedweil]

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Those temps are Saturday and Sunday at noon, not in the evening when the quali (9 PM) and race (7 PM) take place.

I was looking at the real temp instead of the ambient temp (because of winds).
Might be a dusty weekend ..

Regarding those lateral loads and wear, last year most made it a 3-stop race iirc ?

Last year they had a maximum stint length instituted due to cuts being found on the tyres after the sprint caused by the aggressive curbs. One imagines this will have been fixed for this season?

Ah yeah, forgot about that ..
Knew there was something with the tires.
Thnx

[langedweil]

Changes to the kerbs and gravel traps added

https://i.imgur.com/M0uNy3z.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/rNncHn8.jpeg

The removal of the curbs is good for Mercedes and Red Bull.

Those kerbs were indeed horrible .. like a row of pyramids

[Luscion]

Changes to the kerbs and gravel traps added

https://i.imgur.com/M0uNy3z.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/rNncHn8.jpeg

The removal of the curbs is good for Mercedes and Red Bull.

yea, didnt expect this big of a change to them

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Also the circuit is likely to have higher micro-roughness than last year, even if the kerbs are small now. So the punishment to the tyres will continue.

In 2023 the circuit had been relaid recently, and by the time of the grand Prix they had not had time to finish the water surface treatment programme that they wanted to carry out. I expect this will have been finished in the intervening 12 months

[McLarenHonda]

Temperatures have been the biggest differentiating factor this year with Mercedes looking like only working in low temps! This graph looks interesting…Qatar is going to be low temp too!

[Juzh]

I didn't know you weren't allowed to make predictions on the race threads, I have had two posts removed in which I predicted that Mercedes will win at Qatar. I apologise if I broke any site rules, my bad. Hopefully my board warning will be removed sooner rather than later, can anyone point me in the direction of forum rules, thanks.

i think warnings last for 2-3 months and you can have no more than 3 at any one time. if you do you risk a temp ban probably

[rbirules]

Temperatures have been the biggest differentiating factor this year with Mercedes looking like only working in low temps! This graph looks interesting…Qatar is going to be low temp too!

Interesting chart. It would be even more extreme if you remove Austria for Mercedes, which George won not because he had the best pace but because Max and Lando collided and had to pit due to damage.

Also George was on pole in Canada (cold race) and was fast in the wet early in the race, but a few mistakes cost him the race.

[Wouter]

I was looking at the real temp instead of the ambient temp (because of winds).
Might be a dusty weekend ..

Regarding those lateral loads and wear, last year most made it a 3-stop race iirc ?

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This shot was almost before the end:

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Those temps are Saturday and Sunday at noon, not in the evening when the quali (9 PM) and race (7 PM) take place.

I was looking at the real temp instead of the ambient temp (because of winds).
Might be a dusty weekend ..

Regarding those lateral loads and wear, last year most made it a 3-stop race iirc ?

Last year they had a maximum stint length instituted due to cuts being found on the tyres after the sprint caused by the aggressive curbs. One imagines this will have been fixed for this season?

There was an article where they mentioned that Kerbs will be flattened and Pirelli did some test on similar Kerbs with TPC so there shouldn't be problems.

The biggest change made will be at the track, with the pyramid-shaped kerbs having had their tips rounded off at seven of the track's 16 corners.

As well as the physical work at the track, Pirelli has conducted experiments on its dynamic test beds at its Motorsport R&D Department in Milan to better understand the forces at play.

This has involved running tyres over a sample of the new kerb design that has been supplied to it by the FIA to see if there is any risk of repeat problems.

Further data has also been captured from previous car testing that some teams have done in recent weeks in Qatar.

Although the old car testing does not involve running the 2024-spec race tyres, the feedback gathered has been useful in correlating the work being done back in Milan with what is happening in the real world.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/how- ... /10676670/

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Still cold-ish ... a while ago it was Qatar that was even harder dan S'pore according to half the field right ?

I see 24C for quali, 25 for race ..

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Those temps are Saturday and Sunday at noon, not in the evening when the quali (9 PM) and race (7 PM) take place.

I was looking at the real temp instead of the ambient temp (because of winds).
Might be a dusty weekend ..

Regarding those lateral loads and wear, last year most made it a 3-stop race iirc ?

It was mandated by FIA to do 3 stops.