2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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dialtone wrote:
26 Nov 2024, 02:38
ScuderiaLeo wrote:
25 Nov 2024, 23:02
Part of this issue lies with the race engineers, who gave Sainz and Leclerc different instructions. Leclerc was told that "Sainz will not overtake you," only for Sainz to do so a second later. Sainz was not actually told to not overtake Leclerc, but rather that he shouldn't put pressure on him, which he didn't.

You think that when you tell Sainz to not put pressure on Leclerc that doesn’t include overtaking?

How exactly do you put pressure on a team mate then? A massage?
He didn't put pressure, he breezed by immediately and then held position with good pace. That should be justification enough in a race, unless we just want to give Leclerc charity podiums and not have him fight for it.

And any call, whatever it was for, came too late. The overtake was already happening when Sainz's engineer spoke.

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dialtone wrote:
26 Nov 2024, 07:33
JPower wrote:
dialtone wrote:
26 Nov 2024, 02:38



You think that when you tell Sainz to not put pressure on Leclerc that doesn’t include overtaking?

How exactly do you put pressure on a team mate then? A massage?
Nope. Didn't hinder Leclerc's tire introduction.

Now if he hounded Leclerc around the track causing them both to nuke their tires early in the stint, different story.

Words are important. Can't make inferences in pressure situations. Say what you mean or it will be interpreted.
This is just hilarious. Anyway, selfish dude will drive for Williams next year, good riddance.
Aw, Leclerc got outdone on a 50/50 call again and we have to be sad for him. My bad.

Don’t worry, the 7x champ and most selfless driver on the grid will be sitting in garage over next year. All issues will be solved and no conflict will occur I’m sure. We’ll finally have the obedient Lewis Barichello to save the day. :lol:

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Autoracer.it (F1.uno) notes that, despite Ferrari's huge strides this season, they are still not as reactive as they need to be. It seems the strategists were fixated on a one-stopper, and when they realized this was impossible they struggled to catch up, resulting in the drivers being told "We're looking into it" over and over. According to Autoracer's report, Maranello was not expecting the graining on the medium to be that bad and they didn't fully prepare for the scenario.

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JPower wrote:
Don’t worry, the 7x champ and most selfless driver on the grid will be sitting in garage over next year. All issues will be solved and no conflict will occur I’m sure. We’ll finally have the obedient Lewis Barichello to save the day. :lol:
Are we even sure he's driving for Ferrari? I know he signed a contract with the F1 team but words matter and I've not reviewed it so maybe he's just signing up to be on the pit wall.

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dialtone wrote:
26 Nov 2024, 17:36
JPower wrote:
Don’t worry, the 7x champ and most selfless driver on the grid will be sitting in garage over next year. All issues will be solved and no conflict will occur I’m sure. We’ll finally have the obedient Lewis Barichello to save the day. :lol:
Are we even sure he's driving for Ferrari? I know he signed a contract with the F1 team but words matter and I've not reviewed it so maybe he's just signing up to be on the pit wall.
Guess we'll find out soon enough. If he isn't I guess Leclerc will run by himself, which seems preferable to a large majority of fans on here and Twitter. :D

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Cs98 wrote:
26 Nov 2024, 15:59
He didn't put pressure, he breezed by immediately and then held position with good pace. That should be justification enough in a race, unless we just want to give Leclerc charity podiums and not have him fight for it.
I think that's how ridiculous Sainz was trying to justify himself.
Cs98 wrote:
26 Nov 2024, 15:59
And any call, whatever it was for, came too late. The overtake was already happening when Sainz's engineer spoke.
Radio are coming in with a delay in the broadcast.
FORZA FERRARI!

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yooogurt wrote:
26 Nov 2024, 18:15
Cs98 wrote:
26 Nov 2024, 15:59
He didn't put pressure, he breezed by immediately and then held position with good pace. That should be justification enough in a race, unless we just want to give Leclerc charity podiums and not have him fight for it.
I think that's how ridiculous Sainz was trying to justify himself.
Cs98 wrote:
26 Nov 2024, 15:59
And any call, whatever it was for, came too late. The overtake was already happening when Sainz's engineer spoke.
Radio are coming in with a delay in the broadcast.
I don't think Sainz needs to justify going racing and beating his teammate fair and square. It's not like Leclerc was finishing higher than 3rd, so Sainz got the most out of it at no cost to the team points.

I've calculated the delay before, it's about 4-5 seconds, so the call basically came right as he was opening DRS on the back straight. That's too late to issue an ambiguous "do not pressure" message. The move was in the bag at that point, no pressure needed.

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Andretti stated they are in advanced talks with Ferrari to secure an engine. He also said they aren't speaking to any other manufacturers at the moment.

https://www.nbcnews.com/sports/motorspo ... rcna181722
He said the team is in discussions with Ferrari to build an engine for the first two years before 2028, when it plans to have a Cadillac power unit. He said the target is to launch with one experienced F1 driver and one “young American talent.” [...]

And which engine do you expect to use in the early years in 2026 and 2027? The rumors in the paddock in Las Vegas were that you’ll use a Ferrari engine. Is that correct?

That’s what we’re talking about. That’s not definite yet, but that’s the objective. And that’s the preference.

That could put you in a fantastic position in 2026 with the new regulations if Ferrari gets it together.

Absolutely. Even my history with Ferrari, and my relationship with Mr. Ferrari — all of it plays, plays tremendously. There’s so many factors here that make a lot of sense. It will be best of all worlds.

Are you considering or talking to other suppliers for the engine early on, whether it’s Mercedes or anyone else?

Not yet, no.

OK. Sounds like Ferrari is the priority in the early years.

We’re staying with that objective.
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dialtone wrote:
26 Nov 2024, 17:36
Are we even sure he's driving for Ferrari? I know he signed a contract with the F1 team but words matter and I've not reviewed it so maybe he's just signing up to be on the pit wall.
:lol:

The irony is that it's the Sainz fans who seem to think that Sainz is incapable of understanding simple instructions.
Anyway, as long as he's not out performed by Albon, he'll probably be allowed to dictate strategy at Williams.

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Hi to All.
I do not understand the "attack" on Sainz for last race...
We were not in position to push for a better result than 3rd in the race.
Let's blame Sainz for Baku crash and Singapore Q crash.
Also Brazil crash and not for Vegas.
Those incidents may cost the WCC.
He is the one who leaves, but his performance is maybe in highest level compared to previous years.
So even we highly appreciate Charles, we should not accuse the one who leaves.
Team has decided who is the best one year before and the judgement is fair.
But not sure for the replacement judgment even if Hamilton 's prodigy is one of a kind in the sport ( no matter if I am not fan due to the battles we had in the past especially 2008 period)