2024 Qatar Grand Prix - Lusail, Nov 29 - Dec 01

[gastonmazzacane]

The Stewards regard this case as a complicated one

Unusually, this incident occurred when neither car was on a push lap.  Had Car 63 been on a push lap, the penalty would have most likely been the usual 3 grid position penalty, however in mitigation of penalty, it was obvious that the driver of Car 63 had clear visibility of Car 1 and that neither car was on a push lap.

You can't make this thing up.

[TimW]

I assumed George was already pushing, but seeing the inboard, and him slowing down afterwards to keep a gap, I am stunned Max got a penalty.

I got a suspicion Max wil dedicate his race to screwing George's race, just to make sure he does not play these games again.

[Farnborough]

It does seem that GR is intent on furthering his "snippety" output. More interested in snippy (not sniping as that's unseen by definition, bit snippety, snip, snip snipping) than taking ownership of his own actions.

Imola with VB one example, the comments in this sprint race about OP another, his approaching that very wicked Mr Alonso in Australia too.

Doesn't seem to fully resolve that he's on a world stage, not a teenager competing in Karting anymore.

Not really edifying of someone hoping to be a world champion of this sport is it.

[f1isgood]

It does seem that GR is intent on furthering his "snippety" output. More interested in snippy (not sniping as that's unseen by definition, bit snippety, snip, snip snipping) than taking ownership of his own actions.

Imola with VB one example, the comments in this sprint race about OP another, his approaching that very wicked Mr Alonso in Australia too.

Doesn't seem to fully resolve that he's on a world stage, not a teenager competing in Karting anymore.

Not really edifying of someone hoping to be a world champion of this sport is it.

If it works, why would you do anything different haha. From GR's POV, it seems this approach is great. Gets him free poles on a track with terribly hard overtaking and a potential pathway to a straightforward win.

[venkyhere]

GR is that 'too clever for his own good' smart chap in the classroom, aiming to be the school monitor, teachers' pet etc. Thinks he has the moral high ground on fellow classmates. The 'so dangerous that I had to take evading action that damaged my floor, probably why couldn't improve laptime' radio message was 100% intended to influence the stewards. The clever lawyer who goes and still makes 'comments that will be deleted' despite knowing this, so that the judge's mind is subverted even if minutely. He is talented, but thinks others are idiots and he is the smart one. Verstappen is the blunt bully, who doesn't know how to argue his position even if he isn't guilty, and chooses profanity instead, to make his point. I am guessing this is what transpired in the 'stewards hearing'.

The stewarding in this case, is scum.

[f1isgood]

GR is that 'too clever for his own good' smart chap in the classroom, aiming to be the school monitor, teachers' pet etc. Thinks he has the moral high ground on fellow classmates. The 'so dangerous that I had to take evading action that damaged my floor, probably why couldn't improve laptime' radio message was 100% intended to influence the stewards. The clever lawyer who goes and still makes 'comments that will be deleted' despite knowing this, so that the judge's mind is subverted even if minutely. He is talented, but thinks others are idiots and he is the smart one. Verstappen is the blunt bully, who doesn't know how to argue his position even if he isn't guilty, and chooses profanity instead, to make his point. I am guessing this is what transpired in the 'stewards hearing'.

The stewarding in this case, is scum.

I assume Max didn't go there alone. It is likely Wheatley also went with Max.

[chrisc90]

Problem is, its now opened up a minefield to get your competitor a 1 place grid penalty. You see a strong pole contender infront of you when your both on outlaps. Just race up behind them and claim its dangerous whilst going round a corner.

The penalty is absolutely absurd.

I REALLY DO hope Max does the same thing next weekend in Dubai - just to make a point. Of course it will go un-punished because of who did it and the fact its not the first time the stewards have fabricated penalties this season for Max.

Hopefully Max being the Man he is...won't let this one slip.

[chrisc90]

GR is that 'too clever for his own good' smart chap in the classroom, aiming to be the school monitor, teachers' pet etc. Thinks he has the moral high ground on fellow classmates. The 'so dangerous that I had to take evading action that damaged my floor, probably why couldn't improve laptime' radio message was 100% intended to influence the stewards. The clever lawyer who goes and still makes 'comments that will be deleted' despite knowing this, so that the judge's mind is subverted even if minutely. He is talented, but thinks others are idiots and he is the smart one. Verstappen is the blunt bully, who doesn't know how to argue his position even if he isn't guilty, and chooses profanity instead, to make his point. I am guessing this is what transpired in the 'stewards hearing'.

The stewarding in this case, is scum.

I assume Max didn't go there alone. It is likely Wheatley also went with Max.

Was just going to say Wheatley is likely to be there. He's a clever guy. But when the stewards are coming up with BS penalties, making them up as they go, then Max/RBR team don't stand a chance.

Best case is for RBR to take the hit this weekend, then make a mockery of the decision in future. The backwash in the media eye will speak far more volumes than the 1 place grid penalty (when all championships are effectively wrapped up for RBR). F1 doesn't like bad light shone down on its parade.

I havent seen one comment online from anyone who agrees with the penalty for Max.

Makes you wonder if GR's position as GPDA head has a bearing on it.

[Sieper]

Is Suleyman firing stewards for this kind of decision making, or hiring?

[Farnborough]

You can see what Max & Lando think of George's description here



Even George is embarrassed in front of his peers.

[f1isgood]

GR is that 'too clever for his own good' smart chap in the classroom, aiming to be the school monitor, teachers' pet etc. Thinks he has the moral high ground on fellow classmates. The 'so dangerous that I had to take evading action that damaged my floor, probably why couldn't improve laptime' radio message was 100% intended to influence the stewards. The clever lawyer who goes and still makes 'comments that will be deleted' despite knowing this, so that the judge's mind is subverted even if minutely. He is talented, but thinks others are idiots and he is the smart one. Verstappen is the blunt bully, who doesn't know how to argue his position even if he isn't guilty, and chooses profanity instead, to make his point. I am guessing this is what transpired in the 'stewards hearing'.

The stewarding in this case, is scum.

I assume Max didn't go there alone. It is likely Wheatley also went with Max.

Was just going to say Wheatley is likely to be there. He's a clever guy. But when the stewards are coming up with BS penalties, making them up as they go, then Max/RBR team don't stand a chance.

Best case is for RBR to take the hit this weekend, then make a mockery of the decision in future. The backwash in the media eye will speak far more volumes than the 1 place grid penalty (when all championships are effectively wrapped up for RBR). F1 doesn't like bad light shone down on its parade.

I havent seen one comment online from anyone who agrees with the penalty for Max.

Makes you wonder if GR's position as GPDA head has a bearing on it.

I am not sure if RB appealed about this. In any case, I expect Max to do this to George next week just to take the piss. I do think George's position does have a bearing on this. I also recall him being the most vocal about flexi-floor saga in 2022 to politically help his team (probably did most of the work for Mercedes PR there).

[FW17]

I dont agree with this penalty as if Russel was on a fast lap, he would have got out of the way. Both drivers were on prep laps and we have seen countless times when drivers have defended aggressively to hold track position during prep laps.

[Cs98]

"Car 1 drove unnecessarily slowly on a cool down lap."

Stewards couldn't even get the facts straight in their ruling. Points for whoever sees it.

[lio007]

"Car 1 drove unnecessarily slowly on a cool down lap."

Stewards couldn't even get the facts straight in their ruling. Points for whoever sees it.

I'd say this was more a prep lap than a cool down lap.

[Sevach]

Was just going to say Wheatley is likely to be there. He's a clever guy. But when the stewards are coming up with BS penalties, making them up as they go, then Max/RBR team don't stand a chance.

Best case is for RBR to take the hit this weekend, then make a mockery of the decision in future. The backwash in the media eye will speak far more volumes than the 1 place grid penalty (when all championships are effectively wrapped up for RBR). F1 doesn't like bad light shone down on its parade.

I havent seen one comment online from anyone who agrees with the penalty for Max.

Makes you wonder if GR's position as GPDA head has a bearing on it.

Wheatley is being phased out since being hired by Audi/Sauber.
But no doubt someone else was there to argue for Max.