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SchuMassa
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How could Fernando lose 2 positions on the S/F straight at the restart?
Edit: 4 places over just one lap.

Nikosar
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SchuMassa wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 18:13
How could Fernando lose 2 positions on the S/F straight at the restart?
Edit: 4 places over just one lap.
Alonso said on radio that the straight speed is worrying….


Still long race to go

Kamel
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How daphuck Alonso is behind zhou

Kamel
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Alo pitted 2nd time to take mediums, that's why tight incident happened with Mag

Nikosar
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Best thing to do the hard tyre is very bad. Russel was stuck behind Alonso with DRS for 10 laps with the new hards. So the best thing this to put the medium under the safety car

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Nikosar wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 18:19
SchuMassa wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 18:13
How could Fernando lose 2 positions on the S/F straight at the restart?
Edit: 4 places over just one lap.
Alonso said on radio that the straight speed is worrying….


Still long race to go
He can blame whoever he wants but he f*cked up. On the first lap, on the last curve, he gave it too much beans and got wheel spin. Then he was a sitting duck. His top speed was slow cause of the wheel spin, then having to come off the throttle to regain control of the car. He then further compounded the issue by trying to make up for his mistake, carrying too much speed into turn 12 and going wide. Which then resulted in taking another lap to clean up his tires. He was perfect after that though.
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Nikosar wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 19:20
Best thing to do the hard tyre is very bad. Russel was stuck behind Alonso with DRS for 10 laps with the new hards. So the best thing this to put the medium under the safety car
7 of those laps were with the yellow flag into turn 1, so Russell wasn't allowed to pass.

I do think it was smart to play it safe with the mediums.

Nikosar
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TyreSlip wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 19:43
Nikosar wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 19:20
Best thing to do the hard tyre is very bad. Russel was stuck behind Alonso with DRS for 10 laps with the new hards. So the best thing this to put the medium under the safety car
7 of those laps were with the yellow flag into turn 1, so Russell wasn't allowed to pass.

I do think it was smart to play it safe with the mediums.
No it was prior to yellow. Russel already passed him before the yellow

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7th place with this car, in short, another phenomenal race

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Sherrinford wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:08
7th place with this car, in short, another phenomenal race
I don't know what you smoking,but Alonso had mega luck with a lot of retired cars and accident. He couldn't finish in top 10 and the Aston just was slightly faster than Sauber and much slower than Gasly . Can't even keep up with DRS which for me a big disappointment, because where they should be fast if not in the straights?

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OnEcRiTiCaL wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:34
Sherrinford wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:08
7th place with this car, in short, another phenomenal race
I don't know what you smoking,but Alonso had mega luck with a lot of retired cars and accident. He couldn't finish in top 10 and the Aston just was slightly faster than Sauber and much slower than Gasly . Can't even keep up with DRS which for me a big disappointment, because where they should be fast if not in the straights?
Incredible luck, watch at golf, incredible overtaking on the alphatauri and incredible race pace with the car at the limit. Alonso had a sensational race, those who criticize him better change sport

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diffuser wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 19:42
Nikosar wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 18:19
SchuMassa wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 18:13
How could Fernando lose 2 positions on the S/F straight at the restart?
Edit: 4 places over just one lap.
Alonso said on radio that the straight speed is worrying….


Still long race to go
He can blame whoever he wants but he f*cked up. On the first lap, on the last curve, he gave it too much beans and got wheel spin. Then he was a sitting duck. His top speed was slow cause of the wheel spin, then having to come off the throttle to regain control of the car. He then further compounded the issue by trying to make up for his mistake, carrying too much speed into turn 12 and going wide. Which then resulted in taking another lap to clean up his tires. He was perfect after that though.
He said this after the race:

"El año pasado en las primeras vueltas de carrera o después de un Safety Car, el coche creo que todavía se confunde. Piensa que está detrás del Safety Car, y aunque cambies ya las configuraciones, cuando aceleras con la bandera verde no tienes la potencia eléctrica, todavía no tienes el deployment, entonces estás en una jauría de coches, y tú no tienes los 160 CV de potencia en los primeros segundos de la aceleración, eso te convierte en vulnerable. Creo que sabemos donde está el problema, pensábamos que estaba solucionado, pero hoy creo que lo hemos vuelto a tener porque en la primera salida he perdido dos o tres posiciones".

Tu sum up, it seems like last year, in the first laps or after a safety, sometimes happened that the car didn't get all working accordingly for a little while. The team thought it was already solved, but today happend again in the re-start, losing some positions.

FNTC
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Sherrinford wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:39
OnEcRiTiCaL wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:34
Sherrinford wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:08
7th place with this car, in short, another phenomenal race
I don't know what you smoking,but Alonso had mega luck with a lot of retired cars and accident. He couldn't finish in top 10 and the Aston just was slightly faster than Sauber and much slower than Gasly . Can't even keep up with DRS which for me a big disappointment, because where they should be fast if not in the straights?
Incredible luck, watch at golf, incredible overtaking on the alphatauri and incredible race pace with the car at the limit. Alonso had a sensational race, those who criticize him better change sport
Awesome race by Alonso, and for once the team was good on strategy by doing a lap or so on the soft and pitting again to mediums, to avoid the hards.

KimiRai
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Lap 1 Alonso tried to overtake Sainz on the outside of turn 2 similar to what he did to Gasly in 2021 but car understeered massively. Also there were battery issues during restarts according to Alonso which caused lower top speed , apparently a brake/PU issue which they still haven't fixed

Great race and 6 points that are huge with this car. Only one more to go and hopefully we can forget this season finally

Nikosar
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KimiRai wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 21:44
Lap 1 Alonso tried to overtake Sainz on the outside of turn 2 similar to what he did to Gasly in 2021 but car understeered massively. Also there were battery issues during restarts according to Alonso which caused lower top speed , apparently a brake/PU issue which they still haven't fixed

Great race and 6 points that are huge with this car. Only one more to go and hopefully we can forget this season finally
At the start, it looked like he'd made a mistake, understeer and gone wide in a low-grip part of the track. However, it didn't make sense for suffer wheel spin for several laps. Then he explained the reason with strange issue of PU/Brake.

This another issue among the the others to solve for Aston so I think it was right to put some pressure via radio. It is the right time to shake the team a bit and rise the bar for next year.

Cross fingers for some points in the last GPs.