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Luscion
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AR3-GP wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 19:47
Luscion wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 19:46
AR3-GP wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 19:45
Why didn’t Merc put Russell on mediums for the last stop? Did he not have any tires left?
He had two used mediums on the graph, I know he scrubbed one of his mediums but idk if the other was scrubbed as well or used
So just amateur hour then. :lol:
yup

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Hamilton has checked out. Mistake on the start, another mistake during the safety car period, jeez this was worse than brazil. Hopefully he resets for next year but sometimes these bad trends are difficult to reverse. Hes been unwatchable most of this year. But I also agree that hes not driving the same car as russell. The difference in race pace was nearly a sec. So clearly Mercedes is playing games. Which i expected this year but it’s still messed up.

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Luscion wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 19:33
Tonino wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 19:27
Extremely disappointing and unprofessional behavior from Lewis in this race. Toto should seriously consider putting Kimi in the car for the final race of the season.
Lewis is allowed to be upset, its not like hes flinging insults over the radio, if Toto had a problem with it he'd come over the radio and say something, sacking lewis for his final race because hes upset in the moment is just silly
Lewis is paid millions by Mercedes, and instead of whining endlessly on the radio about the car, he should show up and do his job. The car didn’t cause his false start or make him speed in the pit lane, those were his mistakes. His behavior is downright unprofessional and pathetic at this point.

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Hammerfist wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:05
Hamilton has checked out. Mistake on the start, another mistake during the safety car period, jeez this was worse than brazil. Hopefully he resets for next year but sometimes these bad trends are difficult to reverse. Hes been unwatchable most of this year. But I also agree that hes not driving the same car as russell. The difference in race pace was nearly a sec. So clearly Mercedes is playing games. Which i expected this year but it’s still messed up.
Yea the false start somewhat ruined his race being stuck behind Perez, the stewards not calling for a VSC for so many laps, him and Sainz getting punctures and then them calling a SC immediately as both pitted pissed him off a lot and i think that caused him to forget about the pit limiter, then getting a drive through for it pissed him off even more to the point of arguing with Bono about retiring the car. Ham has probably been left out of certain meetings for months now and no longer has a say in car direction and Toto saying yesterday that the W15 and particularly how it is right now just cant handle his driving style backs that up to me. He'll be fine next year, new team etc but i worry that his mindset is probably in the gutter right now after this race

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Tonino wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:13
Luscion wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 19:33
Tonino wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 19:27
Extremely disappointing and unprofessional behavior from Lewis in this race. Toto should seriously consider putting Kimi in the car for the final race of the season.
Lewis is allowed to be upset, its not like hes flinging insults over the radio, if Toto had a problem with it he'd come over the radio and say something, sacking lewis for his final race because hes upset in the moment is just silly
Lewis is paid millions by Mercedes, and instead of whining endlessly on the radio about the car, he should show up and do his job. The car didn’t cause his false start or make him speed in the pit lane, those were his mistakes. His behavior is downright unprofessional and pathetic at this point.
this notion that complaining on the radio is unprofessional is silly, if thats the case all the drivers on the grid are unprofessional and pathetic

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Luscion wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:20
Tonino wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:13
Luscion wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 19:33


Lewis is allowed to be upset, its not like hes flinging insults over the radio, if Toto had a problem with it he'd come over the radio and say something, sacking lewis for his final race because hes upset in the moment is just silly
Lewis is paid millions by Mercedes, and instead of whining endlessly on the radio about the car, he should show up and do his job. The car didn’t cause his false start or make him speed in the pit lane, those were his mistakes. His behavior is downright unprofessional and pathetic at this point.
this notion that complaining on the radio is unprofessional is silly, if thats the case all the drivers on the grid are unprofessional and pathetic
I disagree. Complain and whine as much as you want, but don't mail it in, don't ask to stop. You are paid to do a job.

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Russell vs Hamilton H2H 2022-2024 (one race to go):
Points: 685 vs 685
Season H2H: 2 vs 1 (calling 2024 after today).
Wins: 3 vs 2
Poles: 5 vs 1
Podiums: 14 vs 20

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Cs98 wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:22
Luscion wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:20
Tonino wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:13


Lewis is paid millions by Mercedes, and instead of whining endlessly on the radio about the car, he should show up and do his job. The car didn’t cause his false start or make him speed in the pit lane, those were his mistakes. His behavior is downright unprofessional and pathetic at this point.
this notion that complaining on the radio is unprofessional is silly, if thats the case all the drivers on the grid are unprofessional and pathetic
I disagree. Complain and whine as much as you want, but don't mail it in, don't ask to stop. You are paid to do a job.
He told bono to just retire the car in response to bono telling him he got a drive through penalty for speeding in the pit lane, Bono eventually told him to retire the car and Lewis ignored the order and carried on

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Luscion wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:20
Tonino wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:13
Luscion wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 19:33


Lewis is allowed to be upset, its not like hes flinging insults over the radio, if Toto had a problem with it he'd come over the radio and say something, sacking lewis for his final race because hes upset in the moment is just silly
Lewis is paid millions by Mercedes, and instead of whining endlessly on the radio about the car, he should show up and do his job. The car didn’t cause his false start or make him speed in the pit lane, those were his mistakes. His behavior is downright unprofessional and pathetic at this point.
this notion that complaining on the radio is unprofessional is silly, if thats the case all the drivers on the grid are unprofessional and pathetic
No other driver has whined the whole season like he has. He’s been complaining non-stop, both on the radio and off it, fueling his rabid fanbase in the process. Instead of owning up to his mistakes, he deliberately shifts blame onto the team. He knows exactly what he’s doing. This season, it’s not just the team that’s at fault, his driving has been subpar, and his behavior downright unprofessional.

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Tonino wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:35
Luscion wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:20
Tonino wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:13


Lewis is paid millions by Mercedes, and instead of whining endlessly on the radio about the car, he should show up and do his job. The car didn’t cause his false start or make him speed in the pit lane, those were his mistakes. His behavior is downright unprofessional and pathetic at this point.
this notion that complaining on the radio is unprofessional is silly, if thats the case all the drivers on the grid are unprofessional and pathetic
No other driver has whined the whole season like he has. He’s been complaining non-stop, both on the radio and off it, fueling his rabid fanbase in the process. Instead of owning up to his mistakes, he deliberately shifts blame onto the team. He knows exactly what he’s doing. This season, it’s not just the team that’s at fault, his driving has been subpar, and his behavior downright unprofessional.
Here's him just yesterday saying the quali issues are him and not the car and then Toto saying thats not true

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a6305 ... 00013d541e

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Luscion wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:25
Cs98 wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:22
Luscion wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:20


this notion that complaining on the radio is unprofessional is silly, if thats the case all the drivers on the grid are unprofessional and pathetic
I disagree. Complain and whine as much as you want, but don't mail it in, don't ask to stop. You are paid to do a job.
He told bono to just retire the car in response to bono telling him he got a drive through penalty for speeding in the pit lane, Bono eventually told him to retire the car and Lewis ignored the order and carried on
Yeah what was that about? He ended up disregarding the order to retire the car and they didn’t insist on it. Lol

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Hammerfist wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:39
Luscion wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:25
Cs98 wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:22

I disagree. Complain and whine as much as you want, but don't mail it in, don't ask to stop. You are paid to do a job.
He told bono to just retire the car in response to bono telling him he got a drive through penalty for speeding in the pit lane, Bono eventually told him to retire the car and Lewis ignored the order and carried on
Yeah what was that about? He ended up disregarding the order to retire the car and they didn’t insist on it. Lol
Cause it didnt actually need to be retired, ham was just upset in the moment, there was a back and forth between him and bono with bono saying no at first, then eventually telling him to retire the car. Merc thinks he's retiring the car cause they tweet it then delete it but Ham carries on

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Luscion wrote:
Tonino wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:35
Luscion wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:20
this notion that complaining on the radio is unprofessional is silly, if thats the case all the drivers on the grid are unprofessional and pathetic
No other driver has whined the whole season like he has. He’s been complaining non-stop, both on the radio and off it, fueling his rabid fanbase in the process. Instead of owning up to his mistakes, he deliberately shifts blame onto the team. He knows exactly what he’s doing. This season, it’s not just the team that’s at fault, his driving has been subpar, and his behavior downright unprofessional.
Here's him just yesterday saying the quali issues are him and not the car and then Toto saying thats not true

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a6305 ... 00013d541e
Toto is just being polite. Like he was saying that Mick deserves a seat but however not giving the Lewis's seat to him. Toto talks a lot of bulls*it.

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Jurgen von Diaz wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:48
Luscion wrote:
Tonino wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:35


No other driver has whined the whole season like he has. He’s been complaining non-stop, both on the radio and off it, fueling his rabid fanbase in the process. Instead of owning up to his mistakes, he deliberately shifts blame onto the team. He knows exactly what he’s doing. This season, it’s not just the team that’s at fault, his driving has been subpar, and his behavior downright unprofessional.
Here's him just yesterday saying the quali issues are him and not the car and then Toto saying thats not true

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a6305 ... 00013d541e
Toto is just being polite. Like he was saying that Mick deserves a seat but however not giving the Lewis's seat to him. Toto talks a lot of bulls*it.
Toto, Shovlin and Allison have all said the same thing, the car just doesnt suit him, Allison sat down for like 10mins explaining why he believes Lewis' driving style doesnt suit these cars on an f1 podcast months ago
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What's up with all the Lewis haters here... Yes, he's paid to do his job, but what then, he's not allowed to complain? And ofc he's left out of everything, probably for the most part of the year and the car does not suit him, Toto said so, leave the guy alone. Jeez... Like Hammerfist wrote, he's clocked out... He just wants to be done with it and move on...
Team Fernando!