2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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jambuka wrote:
02 Dec 2024, 07:04
Will Sainz get the new floor as well ?
unlikely
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Post-season testing in Abu Dhabi is coming up. I seem to remember that the car should be in the same configuration as it was in the race, right? Ferrari should put all the sensors they can on the cars, all the pitot tubes, and collect data during testing to improve the correlation.

I raised a similar question last year, is there a plan to do 200km filming days at the Imola circuit instead of Fiorano? It is a bit further than the home circuit, but it is used in the championship and I think it would be more useful to compare data collected there under racing conditions. For example, many teams film at Silverstone.

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Ferrari: the new floor guarantees performance similar to the old one, which is why he stayed with the SF-24 Leclerc. Risk assessed to get massive data collection and better understanding by 2025.

According to the information gathered, the new floor used in Qatar will also be present this weekend in Yas Marina , finalizing the work aimed at understanding the macro component.
https://autoracer.it/it/ferrari-i-retro ... -abu-dhabi
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Interesting info as always.

So the floor worked better on a track like Vegas, whith massive breaking zones, so wishful thinking is that it might yield some benefits in Abu Dhabi as well

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Probably the floor will only be used in free practice again at Abu Dhab

The reason why it was able to be used at Qatar despite 0 spares is this rule imo

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Unless they've built a spare specifically for the final race, but I doubt that.

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How do we honestly rate our chances at Abu Dhabi? Let’s be honest the point deficit is still quite large and it’s unlikely we’ll finish ahead of both McLarens… I reckon either Verstappen or Russell could cause a bit of an upset here.

I think Mercedes could cause a bit of an upset here. In Vegas, their pace was probably assisted by the cooler conditions, but I think in Qatar they were better represented with warmer (albeit slightly) conditions, and they might end up benefiting from the twilight/night aspect of this race.

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Schippke wrote:
02 Dec 2024, 16:15
How do we honestly rate our chances at Abu Dhabi? Let’s be honest the point deficit is still quite large and it’s unlikely we’ll finish ahead of both McLarens… I reckon either Verstappen or Russell could cause a bit of an upset here.

I think Mercedes could cause a bit of an upset here. In Vegas, their pace was probably assisted by the cooler conditions, but I think in Qatar they were better represented with warmer (albeit slightly) conditions, and they might end up benefiting from the twilight/night aspect of this race.
idk i feel like you need to be in 1st or 2nd spot in qualy to even have a chance of winning. all top car now feels very close in performance and track position feels more important than ever.

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Schippke wrote:
02 Dec 2024, 16:15
How do we honestly rate our chances at Abu Dhabi? Let’s be honest the point deficit is still quite large and it’s unlikely we’ll finish ahead of both McLarens… I reckon either Verstappen or Russell could cause a bit of an upset here.

I think Mercedes could cause a bit of an upset here. In Vegas, their pace was probably assisted by the cooler conditions, but I think in Qatar they were better represented with warmer (albeit slightly) conditions, and they might end up benefiting from the twilight/night aspect of this race.
If Ferrari get a 2-3 and McLaren a 4-5, McLaren wins. If Ferrari get a 1-2 and McLaren a 3-4, McLaren wins. If Ferrari get a 3-4 and McLaren a 6-7... you guessed it, McLaren wins. Even if one McLaren doesn't score any points and Ferrari gets a 3-4 or 1-4 or something like that, McLaren wins as long as the other car gets P2 or higher.

It would take one of the McLarens significantly underperforming and Ferrari overperforming to win.

Still, it's not over until it's over. And I think no matter what the outcome is, the team can be proud of what they accomplished this year. Between Montreal, the triple header, and the crash in Baku, they should be nowhere near the WCC. Yet their consistency and brilliance in other races has made up the deficit.

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Realistically, we need to be clear of everyone else and hope that Max or George has a faster car by a good margin to both McLarens. Not totally out of the picture, but not exactly a given...

We basically need a repeat of COTA.

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Hirakawa is in the car for FP1 so one McL will have less time on track. Could be spicy if he bins it.

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F1NAC wrote:
02 Dec 2024, 18:45
Hirakawa is in the car for FP1 so one McL will have less time on track. Could be spicy if he bins it.
We will also have Arthur Leclerc driving Sainz's car in FP1, so we have a similar situation.

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Both teams will put the drivers on the most risk-free run plans possible. A crash would only happen if another driver ran into them.

FP1 conditions won't be representative for qualifying or the race either so missing it isn't a huge blow.

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
02 Dec 2024, 19:19
Both teams will put the drivers on the most risk-free run plans possible. A crash would only happen if another driver ran into them.

FP1 conditions won't be representative for qualifying or the race either so missing it isn't a huge blow.
Not like an FP1 crash is the end of the world anyway. Unless they have a mega shunt that ruins the gearbox/chassis and forces the team to see which parts can be salvaged, it can be rebuilt between sessions.

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SoulPancake13 wrote:
02 Dec 2024, 19:11
F1NAC wrote:
02 Dec 2024, 18:45
Hirakawa is in the car for FP1 so one McL will have less time on track. Could be spicy if he bins it.
We will also have Arthur Leclerc driving Sainz's car in FP1, so we have a similar situation.
Nevermind then. Totally forgot about him

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don't want to bring up baku again but red bull head of technical Wache said this -
"I think it's so difficult to develop that I think some grey areas are so attractive as an engineer. When you see the rear wing of McLaren, I'm sorry, but it's more than grey, and they use it for multiple races. Because, without that, Baku, they will not win. Even our constructors' championship will be completely different."