2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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gastonmazzacane wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 16:42
I'm sorry guys, but I can't agree with ''both drivers gave everything''. Comparing driving and pace from both of them, Carlos was mediocre and pretty bored there.
Oh brother. :roll:

To more important news, I think Ferrari as a team did a great job this season. I think under past regimes, the team would've crumbled after the failed upgrade but they managed to find their footing and really turn up the wick on McLaren and Red Bull.

We'll see what the future holds but things are positive.

Looking forward to seeing Hamilton roll out of the pit garage at Fiorano next.

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Spoutnik wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 17:04
Having both Hamilton and Leclerc mental race pace will be an asset next year
100%

I’d argue strongest pair in recent F1 history

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Both drivers did the best of what their abilities allowed. Norris in his McLaren wasn't even pushing that much, the car had so much pace, he was just managing , not crashing was his only concern.

LeClerc's opening lap was amazing and for Sainz, it was like the sea parting for Moses on turn1 with Piastri and Verstappen spinning outwards to either side. Both of them survived and enhanced on lap1, can't ask for anything better.

I am really happy to see how LeClerc was not giving up and got disappointed only when he found out about the large gap to Norris towards the end. In fact, he was disconsolate after the race, not being able to smile. That says a lot. He is a true Tifosi. Ferrari should never let him go. What I liked most, however, was the way he responded in the post race interview :
Rosberg : how excited are you about Hamilton as team mate, the greatest ?
LeClec : fine, it was an amazing partnership with Sainz, sad to see him go..<rattles for 2 mins about their 4 yr partnership>
He completely ignored the irrelevant question and talked about the relevant stuff. Despite all their ego battles on and off track, leClerc is totally unhappy about Ferrari letting Sainz go, and doesn't want Hamilton there. I could read it in his eyes.

However, the most irksome sight for me was how podium less Hamilton was doing donuts because it was his last day at work with his team, whilst a P2 podium Sainz didn't get the same previlege. Why ?

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venkyhere wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 17:15
Both drivers did the best of what their abilities allowed. Norris in his McLaren wasn't even pushing that much, the car had so much pace, he was just managing , not crashing was his only concern.

LeClerc's opening lap was amazing and for Sainz, it was like the sea parting for Moses on turn1 with Piastri and Verstappen spinning outwards to either side. Both of them survived and enhanced on lap1, can't ask for anything better.

I am really happy to see how LeClerc was not giving up and got disappointed only when he found out about the large gap to Norris towards the end. In fact, he was disconsolate after the race, not being able to smile. That says a lot. He is a true Tifosi. Ferrari should never let him go. What I liked most, however, was the way he responded in the post race interview :
Rosberg : how excited are you about Hamilton as team mate, the greatest ?
LeClec : fine, it was an amazing partnership with Sainz, sad to see him go..<rattles for 2 mins about their 4 yr partnership>
He completely ignored the irrelevant question and talked about the relevant stuff. Despite all their ego battles on and off track, leClerc is totally unhappy about Ferrari letting Sainz go, and doesn't want Hamilton there. I could read it in his eyes.

However, the most irksome sight for me was how podium less Hamilton was doing donuts because it was his last day at work with his team, whilst a P2 podium Sainz didn't get the same previlege. Why ?
I'd assume its F1 Liberty British bias. Zhou, Bottas...dont they deserve some recognition? What about Sainz?

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Apparently, this was closest WCC by percentage of points ever.

McLaren is the first team to ever finish without a DNF. If we think of sll the laps run over the past 70 years, that’s in the realm of anomaly.

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JPower wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 17:27
Apparently, this was closest WCC by percentage of points ever.

McLaren is the first team to ever finish without a DNF. If we think of sll the laps run over the past 70 years, that’s in the realm of anomaly.
Their reliability is incredibly good. This is the one area where I'm worried Ferrari can't catch up, and with the field so close it really matters. Leclerc this season had more mechanical troubles than both McLaren drivers combined, and Leclerc didn't even have that many issues by his standard lol.

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JPower wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 17:27
Apparently, this was closest WCC by percentage of points ever.

McLaren is the first team to ever finish without a DNF. If we think of sll the laps run over the past 70 years, that’s in the realm of anomaly.
And if I am not mistaken, only "DNF" was when Verstappen crashed into Norris in Austria. But he was classified.

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venkyhere wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 17:15
Both drivers did the best of what their abilities allowed. Norris in his McLaren wasn't even pushing that much, the car had so much pace, he was just managing , not crashing was his only concern.

LeClerc's opening lap was amazing and for Sainz, it was like the sea parting for Moses on turn1 with Piastri and Verstappen spinning outwards to either side. Both of them survived and enhanced on lap1, can't ask for anything better.

I am really happy to see how LeClerc was not giving up and got disappointed only when he found out about the large gap to Norris towards the end. In fact, he was disconsolate after the race, not being able to smile. That says a lot. He is a true Tifosi. Ferrari should never let him go. What I liked most, however, was the way he responded in the post race interview :
Rosberg : how excited are you about Hamilton as team mate, the greatest ?
LeClec : fine, it was an amazing partnership with Sainz, sad to see him go..<rattles for 2 mins about their 4 yr partnership>
He completely ignored the irrelevant question and talked about the relevant stuff. Despite all their ego battles on and off track, leClerc is totally unhappy about Ferrari letting Sainz go, and doesn't want Hamilton there. I could read it in his eyes.

However, the most irksome sight for me was how podium less Hamilton was doing donuts because it was his last day at work with his team, whilst a P2 podium Sainz didn't get the same previlege. Why ?
We have to be fair. It's not about finishing P2 or P4 here. After so many titles Lewis leaving Merc is far more important than Sainz leaving Ferrari

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Stunning drive from Charles! Carlos saying McLaren was a tenth faster was a bit annoying at the end. If he truly believed that, he should have pushed Lando a bit more

Anyway, onto better things for next year. The Leclerc/Hamilton race pace battle is going to hit like crack!

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 17:31
JPower wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 17:27
Apparently, this was closest WCC by percentage of points ever.

McLaren is the first team to ever finish without a DNF. If we think of sll the laps run over the past 70 years, that’s in the realm of anomaly.
Their reliability is incredibly good. This is the one area where I'm worried Ferrari can't catch up, and with the field so close it really matters. Leclerc this season had more mechanical troubles than both McLaren drivers combined, and Leclerc didn't even have that many issues by his standard lol.
Both cars were almost bulletproof. Leclerc had one bad engine that didn’t even crap out entirely, then ran the entire season on what was essentially 3 PUs. Sainz had no mechanical DNFs.

As far as reliability goes I’m not particularly concerned for 2025. I’m just concerned that the development over the winter won’t lead antwhere and Ferrari will go into Bahrain with a car that’s still a tenth or two behind.

But genuinely Ferrari have had an incredible season. Baku hurts, just like the Spain package. But the recovery was incredible and both drivers got everything and then some out of what was clearly an inferior car compared to the McLaren.

Leclerc has now solidified himself as the clear second best driver after only Verstappen. He has been super clean and super consistent, with his only crashes being small incidents in FP sessions. I think we can safely say he has gotten rid of his (arguably undeserved) reputation for being inconsistent and crash prone under pressure. He has made one serious mistake all season, which was getting divebombed on cold tyres in Baku by Piastri with an illegal rear wing. All in all just a great season from both drivers, but especially Leclerc.

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Solid drive from both drivers today.

Congrats on P2 in WCC. Gave it everything last race thats for sure.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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f1316 wrote:
07 Dec 2024, 18:20
Ok so here’s my (definitely not just wishful thinking :lol: ) prediction:

- one of the McLarens gets a poor start and is embroiled in a shunt, has to retire
- Sainz gets ahead of the other one and doesn’t pull away but it able to hold it off to take the win
- Leclerc does a Seb 2012 and, with the benefit of a safety car and some attrition from others, gets 3rd, winning us the WCC by a point (or on count back if the McLaren gets fastest lap)

Hey, I can dream! :lol: :lol:
I wasn’t too far off tbh! 2 out of 3 predictions came true - just didn’t have the pace in the car for Sainz to beat Norris on merit.

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f1316 wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 19:01
I wasn’t too far off tbh! 2 out of 3 predictions came true - just didn’t have the pace in the car for Sainz to beat Norris on merit.
And he didn't even need a safety car :D

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It was a positive year, but Baku and Singapore race weekends have defined the outcome of WCC.
A great thanks to Carlos who had performed really well, even after a surgery he won a GP!
Charles was also superb and maybe this year helped him to become very consistent!

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 19:21
f1316 wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 19:01
I wasn’t too far off tbh! 2 out of 3 predictions came true - just didn’t have the pace in the car for Sainz to beat Norris on merit.
And he didn't even need a safety car :D
Ah yeah, true! Heck of a performance.

Hopefully all this running with the experimental floor over the previous two weekends will really set us up in the right direction for next year and we can start as competitive right from this off.