Formula 1 2026-2030 car package will be known as "Gen 15"

[theriusDR3]

The Formula 1 "Gen 15" car


Currently known as "Gen 14" car package

In terms of generational, the Formula 1 2026-2030 car package generation will known as "Gen 15"! Currently Formula 1 still utilizing "Gen 14" car package from 2022 to 2025.

Do you like the "Gen 15" Formula 1 car?

[r85]

Can't wait to see how the overtaking changes because DRS flyby overtakes will be gone. I don't think it will be simple ERS overtakes either, because battery management will be a bigger variable in these new regs.

I'm hoping for more teams to be in race win contention because eliminating ground effect should make the cars easier to understand and develop, especially for Mercedes. These cars should be pushed to the limit like the older generation(s), it's a joke that drivers can't push as hard as they want in qualifying laps.

[Jambier]

Can't wait to see how the overtaking changes because DRS flyby overtakes will be gone. I don't think it will be simple ERS overtakes either, because battery management will be a bigger variable in these new regs.

I'm hoping for more teams to be in race win contention because eliminating ground effect should make the cars easier to understand and develop, especially for Mercedes. These cars should be pushed to the limit like the older generation(s), it's a joke that drivers can't push as hard as they want in qualifying laps.

They will have an overdrive for cars less than 1 sec behind, so DRS is done but replaced by a push to pass system.

I like the idea of smaller cars ( do we know if wheels will go to 16' or stay 18' ?), ligher and getting rid of MGU H but:

- The big part of EV I'm not fan, there no use of it
- I believe they will not succeed to make the cars 30kg lighter due to battery
- They are already speaking about the 2030 engine with no hybrid

So it feels like the engines rules are really the bad part. Of course, active aero also but this is caused by the EV part.

[bananapeel23]

They will have an overdrive for cars less than 1 sec behind, so DRS is done but replaced by a push to pass system.

I like the idea of smaller cars ( do we know if wheels will go to 16' or stay 18' ?), ligher and getting rid of MGU H but:

- The big part of EV I'm not fan, there no use of it
- I believe they will not succeed to make the cars 30kg lighter due to battery
- They are already speaking about the 2030 engine with no hybrid

So it feels like the engines rules are really the bad part. Of course, active aero also but this is caused by the EV part.

I honestly quite like the idea of active aero, assuming it can be made safe.

Imagine the 2020 cars with front and rear DRS. They would be absolutely outrageously fast, probably pushing >400kph at the end of longer straights, assuming gear ratios were modified.

Active aero only works if you replace DRS with something else though. Push to pass is a great solution, since it forces more energy management and requires a car that overtakes to defend the lap following the overtake, since it will be short on ERS.

[wuzak]

They will have an overdrive for cars less than 1 sec behind, so DRS is done but replaced by a push to pass system.

I like the idea of smaller cars ( do we know if wheels will go to 16' or stay 18' ?), ligher and getting rid of MGU H but:

- The big part of EV I'm not fan, there no use of it
- I believe they will not succeed to make the cars 30kg lighter due to battery
- They are already speaking about the 2030 engine with no hybrid

So it feels like the engines rules are really the bad part. Of course, active aero also but this is caused by the EV part.

I honestly quite like the idea of active aero, assuming it can be made safe.

Imagine the 2020 cars with front and rear DRS. They would be absolutely outrageously fast, probably pushing >400kph at the end of longer straights, assuming gear ratios were modified.

Active aero only works if you replace DRS with something else though. Push to pass is a great solution, since it forces more energy management and requires a car that overtakes to defend the lap following the overtake, since it will be short on ERS.

The plan appears to be that the car that uses override mode gets an extra 0.5MJ or allowed recovery for that lap.

It would be preferable, IMO, to not give them the extra energy.

[bananapeel23]

They will have an overdrive for cars less than 1 sec behind, so DRS is done but replaced by a push to pass system.

I like the idea of smaller cars ( do we know if wheels will go to 16' or stay 18' ?), ligher and getting rid of MGU H but:

- The big part of EV I'm not fan, there no use of it
- I believe they will not succeed to make the cars 30kg lighter due to battery
- They are already speaking about the 2030 engine with no hybrid

So it feels like the engines rules are really the bad part. Of course, active aero also but this is caused by the EV part.

I honestly quite like the idea of active aero, assuming it can be made safe.

Imagine the 2020 cars with front and rear DRS. They would be absolutely outrageously fast, probably pushing >400kph at the end of longer straights, assuming gear ratios were modified.

Active aero only works if you replace DRS with something else though. Push to pass is a great solution, since it forces more energy management and requires a car that overtakes to defend the lap following the overtake, since it will be short on ERS.

The plan appears to be that the car that uses override mode gets an extra 0.5MJ or allowed recovery for that lap.

It would be preferable, IMO, to not give them the extra energy.

I don't think 0.5MJ will make a significant difference. From what I've heard they're unlikely to reach the recovery limit anyway, at least before fuel burning and extra fuel was introduced.

[McLarenHonda]

https://formularapida.net/wp-content/up ... AAzw3o.jpg
The Formula 1 "Gen 15" car

https://www.motorsportweek.com/wp-conte ... Res-1.webp
Currently known as "Gen 14" car package

In terms of generational, the Formula 1 2026-2030 car package generation will known as "Gen 15"! Currently Formula 1 still utilizing "Gen 14" car package from 2022 to 2025.

Do you like the "Gen 15" Formula 1 car?

What was “Gen 1” then? 1950?

[theriusDR3]

https://formularapida.net/wp-content/up ... AAzw3o.jpg
The Formula 1 "Gen 15" car

https://www.motorsportweek.com/wp-conte ... Res-1.webp
Currently known as "Gen 14" car package

In terms of generational, the Formula 1 2026-2030 car package generation will known as "Gen 15"! Currently Formula 1 still utilizing "Gen 14" car package from 2022 to 2025.

Do you like the "Gen 15" Formula 1 car?

What was “Gen 1” then? 1950?

1950 was Gen 1
1959 was Gen 2
1969 was Gen 3
1973 was Gen 4
1980 was Gen 5
1984 was Gen 6
1989 was Gen 7
1995 was Gen 8
1998 was Gen 9
2006 was Gen 10
2009 was Gen 11
2014 was Gen 12
2017 was Gen 13
2022 was Gen 14

[Tommy Cookers]

What was “Gen 1” then? 1950? :shock:

1950 was Gen 1
1959 was Gen 2
1969 was Gen 3
1973 was Gen 4
1980 was Gen 5
1984 was Gen 6
1989 was Gen 7
1995 was Gen 8
1998 was Gen 9
2006 was Gen 10
2009 was Gen 11
2014 was Gen 12
2017 was Gen 13
2022 was Gen 14

well ....
apart from engine capacity limits - 1948 1954 1961 and fuel formulation limits 1958 .....
F1 design was unlimited till 1961 when ....
there was for the first time ever .....
minimum weight
minimum wheelbase & minimum engine size (to render F1-illegal non-F1 eg FJ cars)
ban on forced induction ?
mandatory reverse gear
mandatory self-starter
mandatory rollover bar
mandatory road-spec fuel

[TeamKoolGreen]

So the downforce will be reduced by 15% instead of 40% now. The increase comes from bigger wings according to this analyst. So all of the problems with following pre 2022, will be back with a vengeance.

https://youtu.be/C6ZCsKY6hHg?si=RfojvPcyt44UUbil

[f1316]

https://formularapida.net/wp-content/up ... AAzw3o.jpg
The Formula 1 "Gen 15" car

https://www.motorsportweek.com/wp-conte ... Res-1.webp
Currently known as "Gen 14" car package

In terms of generational, the Formula 1 2026-2030 car package generation will known as "Gen 15"! Currently Formula 1 still utilizing "Gen 14" car package from 2022 to 2025.

Do you like the "Gen 15" Formula 1 car?

What was “Gen 1” then? 1950?

1950 was Gen 1
1959 was Gen 2
1969 was Gen 3
1973 was Gen 4
1980 was Gen 5
1984 was Gen 6
1989 was Gen 7
1995 was Gen 8
1998 was Gen 9
2006 was Gen 10
2009 was Gen 11
2014 was Gen 12
2017 was Gen 13
2022 was Gen 14

Is Gen 10 not 2005? Aerodynamically the big changes (ie the lifted front wings, the moved forward rear wings etc) were in 2005, not 2006. Both years had big tyre rules changes (2006 basically just reversing the one tyre per race rule from 2005) and while 2006 saw the switch from V10s to V8s, that seems less fundamental than the aero changes the previous year.

At the very least both should be recognised but to me 2005 brought in the “generation” of cars that ran until 2008.

[wuzak]

https://formularapida.net/wp-content/up ... AAzw3o.jpg
The Formula 1 "Gen 15" car

https://www.motorsportweek.com/wp-conte ... Res-1.webp
Currently known as "Gen 14" car package

In terms of generational, the Formula 1 2026-2030 car package generation will known as "Gen 15"! Currently Formula 1 still utilizing "Gen 14" car package from 2022 to 2025.

Do you like the "Gen 15" Formula 1 car?

What was “Gen 1” then? 1950?

1950 was Gen 1
1959 was Gen 2
1969 was Gen 3
1973 was Gen 4
1980 was Gen 5
1984 was Gen 6
1989 was Gen 7
1995 was Gen 8
1998 was Gen 9
2006 was Gen 10
2009 was Gen 11
2014 was Gen 12
2017 was Gen 13
2022 was Gen 14

1. 1950 was the original formula, based on the pre-war Voiturette class.
2. 1954 was new formula for cas with 2.5L N/A engines or 750cc supercharged engines.
3. 1961 was change to 1.5L N/A engines, no supercharged option, minimum weight 450kg
4. 1966 change to 3.0L N/A or 1.5L supercharged engines, minimum weight 500kg
5. 1983 Flat floor introduced
6. 1989 Turbo engines banned, 3.5L N/A engines up to 12 cylinders allowed
7. 1993 Car width reduced from 2,200mm to 2,000mm
8. 1998 Car width reduced to 1,800mm, grooved tyres introduced
9. 2006 Engine capacity reduced to 2.4L, engine must be V8
10. 2009 Slicks reintroduced, wider front wing, narrow rear wing, KERS optional
11. 2012 Raised noses
12. 2014 Hybrid V6
13. 2017 Car widened, bigger tyres.
14. 2022 Current car, reintroduced ground effects aero, 18in rims.

[cplchanb]

Gen 9 and 13 will forever be ingrained as the peak generations in terms of performance and aesthetics.