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Douglas was good aircraft even the McDonald Douglas military aircraft( F-15) but the wrong people got control of the company who got control of Boeing after the merge.

Boeing went from being run by Engineers to University Fraternity brothers. Animal House like management style.

W8 is unique and something secret about its design that works with cylinder cut off that means extra laps being done per fuel load at Le Mans. Just say during cylinder cut off it's still a very smooth running engine that the drivers will like.

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I would like to see Honda racing IMSA GTP( Acura) and WEC Hypercar( Honda) in 2026.

Using a new chassis ( Oreca) that is modular so it can be easy a Acura GTP( RWD) and a Honda Hypercar ( AWD).
Both racing at Daytona 24 and Le Mans 24.

I would go with different engines.
Something like...
Acura 3.0L V6tt( enlarging today's 2.4L V6)
Honda 4.0L W8etet

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Next Generation platforms.
Type-R ideas

City Type-R ( 5- Door hatchback)
FWD
6 MT
1.5L DOHC V3( eCharger) 8000 rpm redline
270bhp( HRC built engine)
Two 80kw Axial flux electric motors( generators and drive motor) very lightweight.
One or two 1.3 KWH exchange batteries πŸ”‹

Civic- Type- R and Prelude Type-R
AWD( rear electric motor axle... estimate 250 HP)
2.0 L DOHC V3 (Turbo) 7500 rpm redline
320 bhp( HRC built engine)
One 80 kw Axial Flux Electric Motor ( generator)
6MT and 7 DCT
Two 1.3 kwh exchange batteries πŸ”‹

Honda's idea of a Ferrari πŸ˜‰ 😍
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Sasha wrote: ↑
11 Nov 2024, 18:05
DOHC V3 with Electric Compressor.

I would love to see them take that V3 ICE design and make a City Type-R.( 5 door hatchback)
1.5 L with a 60-90 kw Axial Flux Electric Motor between the ICE and 6sp MT.
FWD 300 bhp total power
It would feel like a NA engine with just a better low end. Small floor mounted battery pack( less than 3kwh) and with a short range EV only range for the Zero carbon zones in urban areas( around schools and outdoor cafe areas).

A Type- R below the Civic Type- R

I would love to see the next Civic Type-R go AWD with a 2.0 L V4 and rear eAxle. Also with option of MT or DCT.
400-450 how total power
The common man Ferrari πŸ˜‰πŸ˜

Also with that same engine in a S2000. RWD GT and Open Top.
Didn’t they already do that with the CRZ?
Always liked the idea of that car, never driven one though.
Perspective - Understanding that sometimes the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.

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Stu wrote: ↑
07 Jan 2025, 20:05
Sasha wrote: ↑
11 Nov 2024, 18:05
DOHC V3 with Electric Compressor.

I would love to see them take that V3 ICE design and make a City Type-R.( 5 door hatchback)
1.5 L with a 60-90 kw Axial Flux Electric Motor between the ICE and 6sp MT.
FWD 300 bhp total power
It would feel like a NA engine with just a better low end. Small floor mounted battery pack( less than 3kwh) and with a short range EV only range for the Zero carbon zones in urban areas( around schools and outdoor cafe areas).

A Type- R below the Civic Type- R

I would love to see the next Civic Type-R go AWD with a 2.0 L V4 and rear eAxle. Also with option of MT or DCT.
400-450 how total power
The common man Ferrari πŸ˜‰πŸ˜

Also with that same engine in a S2000. RWD GT and Open Top.
Didn’t they already do that with the CRZ?
Always liked the idea of that car, never driven one though.
Yes.
The CRZ has the right idea( MT Sport Hybrid).
But it just needed a more powerful ICE!
Just 20-30 bhp more would of made a big difference.
It was fun to drive in the narrow country roads that are in the UK and Japan.

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It would be Smart for the Honda Motor Company allocate the Type-R, Type -S and Sports Cars to HRC Automotive ( it is it's own company now)

The Honda, Nissan and Mitsubishi merge would not effect Honda Racing 🏎️ and Sports Cars.

Honda, Nissan and Mitsubishi can go BEV but HRC can stay with ICE HEV( Petrol, Flex-Fuel and Hydrogen).
Allocate HRC a plant in Japan and maybe part of the Nissan plant in Newcastle UK area?
To manufacturer Type-R and Type-S models.

HRC partner with Aston Martin on Halo Sports Cars?
V5 and W8( very compact engines)

Build the Honda, Nissan and Mitsubishi Sport Models at the HRC plants?

Honda... V3
Civic Type-R
Integra Type-S
City Type-R
Prelude Type-R

Nissan...I6 and I4( modular design)
GTR
Z

Mitsubishi... I4( same engine as Nissan)
Lancer Evolution

Probably too smart and profitable of a move???

I feel like I Am in a school because I take in knowledge daily and analyze it...come up with out their πŸ’‘ but like Tesla,they work.
So it looks like the Dolphins see the future and that makes them great Hyperspace Navigators. They are also the brains of most new technology.
I just I Am part Dolphin 🐬 but many many other things because I can put my ideas into the correct people to get it done.
No wonder Honda leadership was not happy with me posting.πŸ˜―πŸ˜‰πŸ˜πŸ¦…

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Nissan GTR/ Z platform the path for future Honda S Sports Cars?

The major hurdle for a future Honda S2000 was the cost.

Honda and Nissan Merge then Honda has a platform to make a S2000 and S3000.

The rumor is Honda is going to use Nissan truck platform for Honda large SUV and possible truck.

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Honda, Nissan and Mitsubishi merge would also help fund Honda Rocket πŸš€.πŸ˜‰

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Honda S2500???
GT and Spider( hard top)
RWD
2.5L DOHC V5 ( electric Charger) 8500 redline
90-120 Axial Flux Electric Motors( generator/ drive motor/ starter)
MT and AT
600 bhp total estimate

Built off the Nissan Z/GT-R platform
Nissan Tochigi plant.
ICE hand built at HRC Tochigi

Sorry guys but it would most likely be in the top of the line Nissan GT-R price range.

Honda and Acura can go BEV but I would let HRC Automotive make the sports cars that the people want( the few who love to drive).

Everyone is now doing Red engine heads.
Maybe HRC does Red and Blue engine heads with White Honda and White plug covers and wires?
That would be a very clean and powerful looking engine!!!

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Don't you think a Newey design Aston Martin with Honda powered Fan Hypercar would sound nice?

Must be RWD.

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Thoughts πŸ€” on the Honda, Nissan and Mitsubishi merge.

Honda needs to Not spend to much to safe Nissan. It isn't smart to buy Renault's share of Nissan because that money is more needed for R&D of BEV,eVTOL, hydrogen and Rockets.
If the Japanese Government wants Nissan saved then they should by the Nissan shares from Renault.
The merge companies can slowly buy the shares from the Japanese Government.

Even if the merge doesn't happen,it would be still smart that Honda works with Nissan and Mitsubishi because Honda needs Nissan plants and some of their platforms ( large truck and Sports Car platforms).

Honda and Mitsubishi working together on Small to medium size BEV platform. Using Mitsubishi plants to manufacturer them.

New factories are expensive so smarter to use Nissan and Mitsubishi underused factories.

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My thoughts for HRC sports car racing in 2026.

BOP racing so I would use AI to get the most out of the package.

Acura GTP
3.0L V6 tt( enlarge the 2.4 L V6 if possible)
RWD

Honda Hypercar
4.0L W8tt( turbo shafts are β™Ž βš–οΈ shafts too)
AWD

Both using the Oreca chassis.
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πŸ’‘...

Honda's first Electric Type-R.

I would use the 8th Generation City 5- Door Hatchback.( First model sold). On sale in 2026.

FWD
1.5L DOHC V3 eCharger
DI and PI
( Air- Water Intercooler in the Air- Box)
Alot Air flow thru the engine bay to keep heat build up Low!
8000-8500 redline
Flex-Fuel
Two 60-80 kw Axial Flux Electric Motors (starter/ Generator/ Drive Motor)
Between the ICE and Trans.
6-MT
1-2 Exchange battery 1.3kwhπŸ”‹ in the engine bay with liquid cooling.
πŸ”’ Very good Locking system so it can't be stolen in a few seconds!!
Total power 300-320 bhp.

Better than today's Civic Type-R

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The Very First Thing....
That the new Honda/ Nissan/ Mitsubishi Company needs to do is....

#1 Build a Eco-friendly HQ in Japan's Country side!!!
This is for the betterment for Japan and exactly what the Japanese Government wants ( Government help the do so). Japan needs to get the people out of the Urban Centers and back to the country.

All three companies should have no major presence in Urban Centers except for Sales.

This should be completed no later than 2028.

If this doesn't happen then Honda/ Nissan/ Mitsubishi are hypocrites about saving the planet by going carbon neutral.
Why would you buy a vehicle from hypocrites?
At least you know your buying --- from China and it is made using slaves. China doesn't hide the fact.

The AI censor is going to erase most of this post because it goes against their beliefs.

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Honda GTX( GT3)

Built off the Nissan Sports Car platform( GT-R)
3.0 L DOHC V5 eCharger PHEV
Flex-Fuel
RWD
DCT
Total HP around 650-700 bhp
???( $150,000+ range)

Honda S2000
Built off Nissan Sports Car platform( Z).
GT and Spider.
2.0 L DOHC V3 eCharger PHEV
Flex-Fuel
MT & DCT
Total HP around 450-500bhp
???(Less than $100,000 but more than $75,000)