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FW17 wrote:
07 Feb 2025, 17:50
Wonder if F1 teams can build desktop tunnels to test 15% models and make it accurate

https://livtab.com/cdn/shop/files/bb65c ... width=1800

https://livtab.com/products/windsible-d ... ind-tunnel
I wonder if FIA would count that in terms of ATR.

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FW17 wrote:
05 Feb 2025, 08:40
In the new ground-effect era, where the cars run closer to the ground, the interaction between the car floor and track surface has become a key performance differentiator.

Last summer Ferrari shut down its F1 wind tunnel to install a new ‘rubberised’ rolling road which, while less durable than the conventional steel belt, more accurately reflects the texture of a track surface.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/why- ... /10693462/
Teams have historically used smooth surfaces because it meant the 60% test tyres that Pirelli gave them lasted longer.
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lio007 wrote:
07 Feb 2025, 18:32
FW17 wrote:
07 Feb 2025, 17:50
Wonder if F1 teams can build desktop tunnels to test 15% models and make it accurate

https://livtab.com/cdn/shop/files/bb65c ... width=1800

https://livtab.com/products/windsible-d ... ind-tunnel
I wonder if FIA would count that in terms of ATR.
Quiet sure they can wheel them out of the design office if an FIA inspector comes around.

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SiLo wrote:
07 Feb 2025, 18:38
FW17 wrote:
05 Feb 2025, 08:40
In the new ground-effect era, where the cars run closer to the ground, the interaction between the car floor and track surface has become a key performance differentiator.

Last summer Ferrari shut down its F1 wind tunnel to install a new ‘rubberised’ rolling road which, while less durable than the conventional steel belt, more accurately reflects the texture of a track surface.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/why- ... /10693462/
Teams have historically used smooth surfaces because it meant the 60% test tyres that Pirelli gave them lasted longer.

They probably figured they can do this...........
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FW17 wrote:
07 Feb 2025, 18:45
SiLo wrote:
07 Feb 2025, 18:38
FW17 wrote:
05 Feb 2025, 08:40
In the new ground-effect era, where the cars run closer to the ground, the interaction between the car floor and track surface has become a key performance differentiator.

Last summer Ferrari shut down its F1 wind tunnel to install a new ‘rubberised’ rolling road which, while less durable than the conventional steel belt, more accurately reflects the texture of a track surface.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/why- ... /10693462/
Teams have historically used smooth surfaces because it meant the 60% test tyres that Pirelli gave them lasted longer.

They probably figured they can do this...........
https://tiimg.tistatic.com/fp/1/002/785 ... es-442.jpg
you're not allowed to modify the supply wind tunnel tyres
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A very insightful video what's actually happening and what a WT facility looks inside:


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Are the parts of the 60% models nowdays full 3d printed or not? I would think it is the cheapest way to produce them.

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michl420 wrote:
30 Oct 2025, 15:30
Are the parts of the 60% models nowdays full 3d printed or not? I would think it is the cheapest way to produce them.
Material selection is based on mechanical requirements and lifing (frequency and amplitude of vibrations and how long it's expected to remain on the model) of a part.
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Beware of T-Rex

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Some nice and interesting pictures from Aston Martin's WT construction:
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In comparison Red Bull's construction of their new wind tunnel (although at an early stage):
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AR3-GP wrote:
05 Jan 2026, 14:23
white car with black bits in wind tunnel
No moving floor? How quaint.

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Greg Locock wrote:
06 Jan 2026, 01:05
AR3-GP wrote:
05 Jan 2026, 14:23
white car with black bits in wind tunnel
No moving floor? How quaint.
There’s a rolling road. It’s just hard to see in that angle.
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