2025 McLaren F1 Team

[Brahmal]

I wish they'd just make a minimum decal weight, to encourage full coverage.

[BMMR61]

The arguments seem to be, when stepping back a few paces, like "straining at gnats".

I think it's obvious that achieving performance parity like McLaren have in 2024 is likely to be at the least, eroded, in 2026 when the PU developer introduces new a design to a concept the "works" team orders. Yes there are regulations which attempt to give engine parity but it isn't the PU performance delivered, it's more about the insider knowledge of the concept that was started 24 months earlier. A chassis is designed around the knowledge of the concept and is well tested in wind tunnels and run through simulation. Expect McLaren to lose some of it's current advantage, though if there's a considerable advantage at the end of 2025 this may be enough to counter much of this "insider" PU concept knowledge.

[Darth-Piekus]

You're arguing about schematics. The fact is Mclaren has a saying to how the engine will be tailored to both the needs of Mercedes and Mclaren courtesy of a special agreement that Zak Brown accomplished. A fully customer team does not have that priviledge and it will become obvious in 2026 compared to the other customers. For now let's focus on tomorrow as I am curious to see where our car stands as so far I have seen some beautifully designed cars from the other teams.

[BassVirolla]

Given the rules about weight distribution between axles, the CoG is quite limited in location.

The amount of ballast which makes sense for setup is very restricted.

Nevertheless, it would be possible to fit ballast under the CoG to get it even lower, while not moving it forward nor rearward.

[mwillems]

Given the rules about weight distribution between axles, the CoG is quite limited in location.

The amount of ballast which makes sense for setup is very restricted.

Nevertheless, it would be possible to fit ballast under the CoG to get it even lower, while not moving it forward nor rearward.

On the article I posted, there is this to say about weight distribution:

Front suspension: Carbon-fibre / titanium suspension legs, pullrod operating inboard torsion bar, spring and damper system

Rear suspension: Carbon-fibre / titanium suspension legs, pushrod operating inboard torsion bar, spring and damper system

Weight: Overall vehicle weight 800 kg (including driver, excluding fuel)

Weight distribution between: 44.6% and 46.1% on front axle

Whether that is something that is with a regulation and how tight they are, I do not know. So that may or may not be insightful.

[Arcanum]

It's childish, I know, but I just watched the video of the RB21 pulling into its pit box during today's Red Bull filming day. A pit box which is 3 positions down the pit lane. I couldn't help but smile at the orange McLaren pit gear being first in the pit lane.

Great for the drivers with the smoothest entry. Should help a little in the races. Though not when it's just started raining and they have to wait for a procession of cars to come past before being released.

[BassVirolla]

Given the rules about weight distribution between axles, the CoG is quite limited in location.

The amount of ballast which makes sense for setup is very restricted.

Nevertheless, it would be possible to fit ballast under the CoG to get it even lower, while not moving it forward nor rearward.

On the article I posted, there is this to say about weight distribution:

Front suspension: Carbon-fibre / titanium suspension legs, pullrod operating inboard torsion bar, spring and damper system

Rear suspension: Carbon-fibre / titanium suspension legs, pushrod operating inboard torsion bar, spring and damper system

Weight: Overall vehicle weight 800 kg (including driver, excluding fuel)

Weight distribution between: 44.6% and 46.1% on front axle

Whether that is something that is with a regulation and how tight they are, I do not know. So that may or may not be insightful.

I think that's nearly what the rules restrict. I think I remember to be about a 2% of variability.

[_cerber1]

[f1rules]

Piastri has suggested there are items on the car that could get the F1 paddock talking once testing gets underway.

“There are some interesting things on the car which I’m sure everyone will see tomorrow,” Piastri told media including RacingNews365.

[Emag]

Piastri has suggested there are items on the car that could get the F1 paddock talking once testing gets underway.

“There are some interesting things on the car which I’m sure everyone will see tomorrow,” Piastri told media including RacingNews365.

We didn’t see the diffuser and I suppose some of the engine cover bodywork might have been an early MCL39 spec for the camo run.

Other than that, the wings were also 2024-spec, but there isn’t much you can come up with there.

Excited for tomorrow. We will get first proper pics of the car.

[RedNEO]

Piastri has suggested there are items on the car that could get the F1 paddock talking once testing gets underway.

“There are some interesting things on the car which I’m sure everyone will see tomorrow,” Piastri told media including RacingNews365.

Upside down suspension?

[f1rules]

yeah i dont know, if this wording in the statement is correct, i havent seen mclaren going to this length of keeping their car secret, and im not talking about diffuser, that can be hidden easily. There must be some kind of solution somewhere, the front susp has already been shown so, its really intriguing

[Darth-Piekus]

The action is finally starting again. I wish good luck to the team and I hope to see a car that will dominate from the start helping us secure the first double after 26 years.

[Macklaren]

Are we sure he's not just referring to the anti-dive? Does he know it's been discussed to death online? How active is Oscar on F1T?

[f1rules]

yeah maybe, thats a good point. Interesting enough Kravitz mention McL's rear susp as agressive

https://x.com/i/status/1894477471581409613

Are we sure he's not just referring to the anti-dive? Does he know it's been discussed to death online? How active is Oscar on F1T?