2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

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Alo_Fan wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 11:59
KimiRai wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 11:52
Onboard looked good in my view. Balance looks better than last year imo when there was too much slip.
Definitely looks more drivable, was interesting to compare Fernando's long run to Lawson's. Difficult to know fuel loads, but as long as the gap closes to the top 4 by a sizeable amount I'd be happy.
i saw that too, but, after that alonso did another long run and was bad, with C1, tyre degrad looks so much high

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Yeah, tyre deg did seem quite high on that C1 run. Two concerns would be a very slow S3 (probably the car is quite draggy) and high tyre deg.

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Cant be a decent car if its both draggy and bad on tyres. Even an imperfect car which is draggy should mean you at least have decent downforce and therefore shouldn't be chewing through its tyres. AMR 23 was excellent on tyres and I remember showed very little deg on the race sim in testing even though it lacked straight line speed. Now, this could be AM trying different configs and engine modes but if its draggy and bad on tyres, its just going to be a bottom 2-3 car.

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peewon wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 12:56
Cant be a decent car if its both draggy and bad on tyres. Even an imperfect car which is draggy should mean you at least have decent downforce and therefore shouldn't be chewing through its tyres. AMR 23 was excellent on tyres and I remember showed very little deg on the race sim in testing even though it lacked straight line speed. Now, this could be AM trying different configs and engine modes but if its draggy and bad on tyres, its just going to be a bottom 2-3 car.
The worst part is neither of those things can easily be fixed.

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It’s impossible to have a read on Aston martins pace. They’re being very weird during testing

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I was looking at speedtraps and they were running 4-6km less top speed than some other teams. Only Haas was lower afaik. thWhether a draggy car or just not turning up the engine as much who knows

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Thoughts? He's way more optimistic than us :lol:

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KimiRai wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 13:28
Thoughts? He's way more optimistic than us :lol:
Most have it right in that it's super hard to say anything at all, especially when Aston were pretty decent looking here last year compared to most other tracks. Even if they were looking good going by their testing, will that bore out as a better competitive car(relatively) everywhere else?

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KimiRai wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 13:28
Thoughts? He's way more optimistic than us :lol:

https://i.imgur.com/YI9wbZL.png
Be careful on what that guy says, he said a lot of nonsense in the past. Second day of testing and this guy is talking like he knows more than the actual team itself…

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KimiRai wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 13:20
I was looking at speedtraps and they were running 4-6km less top speed than some other teams. Only Haas was lower afaik. thWhether a draggy car or just not turning up the engine as much who knows
I’ve read, all teams are taking extra care with engines. It is the last season of this regulations and they do not want to spent in engine maintenance. They try to avoid extra stress on the engines to preserve them.

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Seanspeed wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 13:36
KimiRai wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 13:28
Thoughts? He's way more optimistic than us :lol:
Most have it right in that it's super hard to say anything at all, especially when Aston were pretty decent looking here last year compared to most other tracks. Even if they were looking good going by their testing, will that bore out as a better competitive car(relatively) everywhere else?
Last year you could already see from the tests that he was eating the tyres, today I saw two long run, one negative and the other mediocre

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Alex Kalinauckas from Motorsport.com says this:
"I’m up the race control tower for the track’s drag strip that handily overlooks Turns 9-10. The McLaren’s nose rotates better than any other, but Piastri’s lines are inconsistent. The driver hitting the same spots every time? Alonso in the Aston. That’s a good sign the team might have cured its 2024 handling ills, with the caveat the cool temperatures will be easier for the tyres than normal here."

Spanish site SoyMotor.com also reported better traction, on par with Ferrari in an analysis they made.

I think Aston will not beat the top 4 teams on merit but the general feeling is that it has a much better car this year, enough to let Alonso work his magic at some circuits.

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Seanspeed wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 13:36
KimiRai wrote:
27 Feb 2025, 13:28
Thoughts? He's way more optimistic than us :lol:
Most have it right in that it's super hard to say anything at all, especially when Aston were pretty decent looking here last year compared to most other tracks. Even if they were looking good going by their testing, will that bore out as a better competitive car(relatively) everywhere else?
The reason why they looked decent here last year is only that they lost ground once the european season started. In reality they were equally fast in Jeddah, Suzuka or Shanghai...

Let's face it, they won't be on pole, which was already clear before the tests started, but everything else is pure guessing this year with the test programme they drive.

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stroll is out at last. they still dont do many laps and this time it didn't seem like they had an issue

last year p9 and p10 in the first race. It could happen again or even worse. My expectations are low :)

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I think a bit too early to judge but Alpine is looking a bit better than us