2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

[auem123]

I doubt any fundamental problem with this car is salvageable by Newey. From the point of view of Aston, his time is more worth for 2026.

[Nikosar]

On Sky F1 today in the end of the last session they were discussing which team should be happiest (Ferrari) and saddest after the test. Ruth Boscombe and Bernie Collins said Aston should be saddest, and Croft seemed to agree. So lots for Newey to work on from Monday, unless they have been hiding their cards.

After day two they were happy with Aston. F1.com made an article on Aston potentially challenging podium.

So one “bad” and “good” day is enough for them to change opinions.

Fact is that we improved by -0,9 sec compared to 2024 test. Better then Ferrari -0,54 sec and Mercedes -0,8 sec.

Undoubtedly the team already made a progress. This the true goal for 2025 keep slowly build momentum and improve.

I know you all hyped for Neway, he is the best and a legend of the sport but as Cowell said : “It won’t be a one man show”

[issey]

On Sky F1 today in the end of the last session they were discussing which team should be happiest (Ferrari) and saddest after the test. Ruth Boscombe and Bernie Collins said Aston should be saddest, and Croft seemed to agree. So lots for Newey to work on from Monday, unless they have been hiding their cards.

After day two they were happy with Aston. F1.com made an article on Aston potentially challenging podium.

So one “bad” and “good” day is enough for them to change opinions.

Fact is that we improved by -0,9 sec compared to 2024 test. Better then Ferrari -0,54 sec and Mercedes -0,8 sec.

Undoubtedly the team already made a progress. This the true goal for 2025 keep slowly build momentum and improve.

I know you all hyped for Neway, he is the best and a legend of the sport but as Cowell said : “It won’t be a one man show”

You can’t take day 1/2 results to compare as the track was nowhere like last year, day 3 was the only day in testing where it was slightly comparable to last year and we where slower than last year.

[GoranF1]

On Sky F1 today in the end of the last session they were discussing which team should be happiest (Ferrari) and saddest after the test. Ruth Boscombe and Bernie Collins said Aston should be saddest, and Croft seemed to agree. So lots for Newey to work on from Monday, unless they have been hiding their cards.

Newey will focus 99,9% on the 2026 car.

1. Alonso said Newey will work also on 2025 car
2. They need to find out what they are doing wrong since start of 2023 to now before they can focus on 2026 so Newey must look into this car and structure that is in place to see what is going on.

[Rikrikrik]

On Sky F1 today in the end of the last session they were discussing which team should be happiest (Ferrari) and saddest after the test. Ruth Boscombe and Bernie Collins said Aston should be saddest, and Croft seemed to agree. So lots for Newey to work on from Monday, unless they have been hiding their cards.

Newey will focus 99,9% on the 2026 car.

1. Alonso said Newey will work also on 2025 car
2. They need to find out what they are doing wrong since start of 2023 to now before they can focus on 2026 so Newey must look into this car a structure that is in place to see what is going on.

I agree. There will be no point in focusing on 2026 if there is an obscure problem, which could end 2026 as well

[Sedaxel]

If you don't know what you've been doing for two years, there's no reason you will know in 2026. They must understand how to build a car first. Newey alone won't build the car.

[Xyz22]

If you don't know what you've been doing for two years, there's no reason you will know in 2026. They must understand how to build a car first. Newey alone won't build the car.

Of course Newey will do a complete review of the technical team and also will look at the current state of the AMR 25. He will understand what is wrong in probably a few hours and maybe outline some small improvements but you can't change the chassis, you can't change the suspension layout, etc. and the gap compared to the top teams is just too big.

His focus will be designing the key concepts of the 2026 car and overview the work of the technical team. Remember that, with him, Fallows looked like an insane genius.

[Sedaxel]

If you don't know what you've been doing for two years, there's no reason you will know in 2026. They must understand how to build a car first. Newey alone won't build the car.

Of course Newey will do a complete review of the technical team and also will look at the current state of the AMR 25. He will understand what is wrong in probably a few hours and maybe outline some small improvements but you can't change the chassis, you can't change the suspension layout, etc. and the gap compared to the top teams is just too big.

His focus will be designing the key concepts of the 2026 car and overview the work of the technical team. Remember that, with him, Fallows looked like an insane genius.

I hope you're right. But, in my experience as a mechanical engineer, I think that only one person alone can't know all details of such a complicated problem to perfection. He's a genius, I get that. But well... At the end, big advances come from team work. If the team can only do this, failing once and again in every step they take, it's much more difficult that only one person could solve the problem.

[Xyz22]

If you don't know what you've been doing for two years, there's no reason you will know in 2026. They must understand how to build a car first. Newey alone won't build the car.

Of course Newey will do a complete review of the technical team and also will look at the current state of the AMR 25. He will understand what is wrong in probably a few hours and maybe outline some small improvements but you can't change the chassis, you can't change the suspension layout, etc. and the gap compared to the top teams is just too big.

His focus will be designing the key concepts of the 2026 car and overview the work of the technical team. Remember that, with him, Fallows looked like an insane genius.

I hope you're right. But, in my experience as a mechanical engineer, I think that only one person alone can't know all details of such a complicated problem to perfection. He's a genius, I get that. But well... At the end, big advances come from team work. If the team can only do this, failing once and again in every step they take, it's much more difficult that only one person could solve the problem.

I'd agree with you over anyone else, but we are talking about Newey. This guy is different from the others.

[-wkst-]

Of course Newey will do a complete review of the technical team and also will look at the current state of the AMR 25. He will understand what is wrong in probably a few hours and maybe outline some small improvements but you can't change the chassis, you can't change the suspension layout, etc. and the gap compared to the top teams is just too big.

His focus will be designing the key concepts of the 2026 car and overview the work of the technical team. Remember that, with him, Fallows looked like an insane genius.

I hope you're right. But, in my experience as a mechanical engineer, I think that only one person alone can't know all details of such a complicated problem to perfection. He's a genius, I get that. But well... At the end, big advances come from team work. If the team can only do this, failing once and again in every step they take, it's much more difficult that only one person could solve the problem.

I'd agree with you over anyone else, but we are talking about Newey. This guy is different from the others.

Yes, he is Newey, but also Newey needs a good team around him. It’s easy to forget, but Newey always built a great team around him. If they fail to deliver this year, I doubt that they have a great team right now and Newey needs more years to build a winner team.

[diffuser]

On Sky F1 today in the end of the last session they were discussing which team should be happiest (Ferrari) and saddest after the test. Ruth Boscombe and Bernie Collins said Aston should be saddest, and Croft seemed to agree. So lots for Newey to work on from Monday, unless they have been hiding their cards.

Newey will focus 99,9% on the 2026 car.

1. Alonso said Newey will work also on 2025 car
2. They need to find out what they are doing wrong since start of 2023 to now before they can focus on 2026 so Newey must look into this car and structure that is in place to see what is going on.

Alonso said we can't tell Newey what to work on. The fact that Alonso changed his tune, means, Newey must have told Alonso he will look at 2025. Probably for the reason you mentioned.

[SSJ4]

obviously i have no clue how wind tunnel and simulator correlation works. surely it would be crazy for newey not to look at the 25 car before putting full focus on the aero and chassis for 26 regs.

“Set-up can mask problems to an extent, but the problem is still there,” said Newey. “To me set-up is more simply optimising the characteristics of the car and of course, to an extent, driver, but I think that’s over-egged.

“It’s mainly to complement the characteristics of the car and then of course circuit-to-circuit variation, depending on the nature of the circuit.”

those quotes were in regards to red bulls development issues. probably a reason why aston did so many suspension tests so he has the data he needs to help

[Rikrikrik]

obviously i have no clue how wind tunnel and simulator correlation works. surely it would be crazy for newey not to look at the 25 car before putting full focus on the aero and chassis for 26 regs.

“Set-up can mask problems to an extent, but the problem is still there,” said Newey. “To me set-up is more simply optimising the characteristics of the car and of course, to an extent, driver, but I think that’s over-egged.

“It’s mainly to complement the characteristics of the car and then of course circuit-to-circuit variation, depending on the nature of the circuit.”

those quotes were in regards to red bulls development issues. probably a reason why aston did so many suspension tests so he has the data he needs to help

In my opinion, Newey starts next monday and for me, the only thing he will work until middle of march is help AM with pre season data and find the best configuration for Australia. Will be interesting to see the news about what Newey will be doing inside walls there.

[TyreSlip]

I don't remember the article or if it's even true, but Alonso allegedly said the car felt different in the simulator compared to the one on track.

[selvam_e2002]

without fixing the current issue with current facility, how they can prepare a 2026 challenger? So I am 100% sure, Newly will work on fixing current year car with the current facility and technology before moving into next year car. else we will be ending up with same situation and debate in 2026.