2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[LurkingMostly]

https://autoracer.it/it/test-bahrain-mc ... es-redbull
AMuS saying "McLaren starts strong but Ferrari is just "immature", not slow"

At the beginning of 2023, when it became apparent that the car was a failed project, I remember Vasseur telling the media stuff like "a car that is this fast in qualifying can't be a failed project, we just have to work on it". I'm very much not one for negativity, but I wouldn't get my hopes up for Ferrari this year. Not saying the car will be 2023-bad, but I wouldn't get my hopes up for a championship fight.

[Fakepivot]

was sf23 failed project? i don't know. they did improve as they progressed throughout the season you can't deny that. we can only hope they do the same here but then again unlike before next year is different. but yes, hopes for this year is not high. and then Aston will have Adrian and McLaren has 2 or 3 of them from red bull who seem to know and fully understand these cars, man Ferrari have really uphill battle this year and also maybe next few years.

[deadhead]

was sf23 failed project?

In my opinion, every car that does not win the World Constructors' Championship is, to some extent, a failed project. For a team with such resources, the primary objective each year is to win the title, and anything less should be deemed a failure. A few wins per season might suffice to keep the sponsors content, but ultimately, that is not the goal.

Some cars are bigger failures than others, the SF23 pretty high on that scale.

[Sergej]

https://autoracer.it/it/test-bahrain-mc ... es-redbull
AMuS saying "McLaren starts strong but Ferrari is just "immature", not slow"

At the beginning of 2023, when it became apparent that the car was a failed project, I remember Vasseur telling the media stuff like "a car that is this fast in qualifying can't be a failed project, we just have to work on it". I'm very much not one for negativity, but I wouldn't get my hopes up for Ferrari this year. Not saying the car will be 2023-bad, but I wouldn't get my hopes up for a championship fight.

This "the car is not slow, it only needs to be correctly understood and setup" stuff is typical from Ferrari camp, we heard this million of times in past years. Not that it cannot be true this time, but still.

[DoctorRadio]

AMuS says that in the racing simulations of Norris and Leclerc, the Ferrari had about 10 kg more fuel and in the last cut-off simulation of the race Leclerc could use a lower ERS mode, so it is worth waiting

Where is this info?
I can’t find it on AMuS.

[Emag]

AMuS haven’t been the same for a while now. If they did publish that, I call BS. There is no way they can know for sure what fuel loads each of the teams were running unless the teams told them. And that’s never gonna happen.

[CjC]

AMuS haven’t been the same for a while now. If they did publish that, I call BS. There is no way they can know for sure what fuel loads each of the teams were running unless the teams told them. And that’s never gonna happen.

Bottas said on Teds notebook (day 3 I think) that everyone has the same fuel load/ full tanks for the race sims.

[yooogurt]

AMuS haven’t been the same for a while now. If they did publish that, I call BS. There is no way they can know for sure what fuel loads each of the teams were running unless the teams told them. And that’s never gonna happen.

Formula uno is BS, too? They also wrote that there was more fuel and less PU power.

[Emag]

AMuS haven’t been the same for a while now. If they did publish that, I call BS. There is no way they can know for sure what fuel loads each of the teams were running unless the teams told them. And that’s never gonna happen.

Formula uno is BS, too? They also wrote that there was more fuel and less PU power.

If they don’t have a proper source to verify the claim about the fuel, then yes, it is BS. Unless they specifically disclosed that they *assume* there is more fuel (which at the most would be 10kg for a race sim plan anyway), because we have no way of knowing fuel loads.

The PU mode on the other hand is easily verifiable through telemetry data. Nobody is denying that.

[CjC]

Leclerc will have more fuel if he’s using less power. The first stint would have been the most representative

[Emag]

Leclerc will have more fuel if he’s using less power. The first stint would have been the most representative

Eh, its very marginal, you can’t really save that much fuel. Unless you’re going into really heavy fuel saving mode, which would be reflected both on laptimes and in telemetry with obvious LiCo everywhere, which wasn’t the case.

[F1NAC]

was sf23 failed project?

In my opinion, every car that does not win the World Constructors' Championship is, to some extent, a failed project. For a team with such resources, the primary objective each year is to win the title, and anything less should be deemed a failure. A few wins per season might suffice to keep the sponsors content, but ultimately, that is not the goal.

Some cars are bigger failures than others, the SF23 pretty high on that scale.

All of the top dogs now have similar resources and budget to spend. This is now outdated phrase. We are not in 2000s anymore.

[deadhead]

was sf23 failed project?

In my opinion, every car that does not win the World Constructors' Championship is, to some extent, a failed project. For a team with such resources, the primary objective each year is to win the title, and anything less should be deemed a failure. A few wins per season might suffice to keep the sponsors content, but ultimately, that is not the goal.

Some cars are bigger failures than others, the SF23 pretty high on that scale.

All of the top dogs now have similar resources and budget to spend. This is now outdated phrase. We are not in 2000s anymore.

Not spending, I mean facilities, engineering departments, and of course, always having one or even two top drivers like they do currently.

Ferrari is in F1 to win, presumably, unless of course they are very much okay with where they have been for the past 20 years or so

[IntrinsicVoid]

https://autoracer.it/it/test-bahrain-mc ... es-redbull

AMuS saying "McLaren starts strong but Ferrari is just "immature", not slow"

This does give me vibes from beginning in 2023 with the “capricious diva”.

All it remains to be seen, hopefully they know what they’re doing and we see proper competitive season.

[Henri]

Leclerc will have more fuel if he’s using less power. The first stint would have been the most representative

Eh, its very marginal, you can’t really save that much fuel. Unless you’re going into really heavy fuel saving mode, which would be reflected both on laptimes and in telemetry with obvious LiCo everywhere, which wasn’t the case.

I thinl Ferrari has more information than you. Do not check f1 tempo and think you know Ferrari engine modes lol