2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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the EDGE wrote:
03 Mar 2025, 22:39
If a men like Ron Dennis & Alonso can kiss & make up after all that happened at McLaren, when they find they need each other, I’m sure a little thing like leaving the RB family wouldn’t get in the way
Yeah, but Sainz is not an Alonso. I rate Sainz high, but still if you want a driver like him, there are at least 5-6 options, maybe more. You can go with any of those and get similar results so you don't have to find a way to make peace with him. However, if you want an Alonso, you need Alonso. There are no alternatives so you either make peace with him, or you won't have it.
That's the difference between the good and the great.

To get back to somewhat ontopic. This is exactly the reason why RedBull kept Max against Sainz. One is unique, the other is replaceable. If they decided to side ways with Sainz back then, I see no reason why to go back to him now.

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Wouter wrote:
03 Mar 2025, 21:18
Henri wrote:
03 Mar 2025, 19:45
https://x.com/notracingpoint/status/1896616683659472981 redbull admit McLaren and Ferrari are quicker
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It says: "This post doesn't exist."
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https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/the- ... -troubles/ .. waches quote is at the end in the article

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Sergej wrote:
03 Mar 2025, 21:18
Henri wrote:
03 Mar 2025, 19:45
https://x.com/notracingpoint/status/1896616683659472981 redbull admit McLaren and Ferrari are quicker
Can't see the tweet.
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/the- ... -troubles/ in here

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Seanspeed wrote:
03 Mar 2025, 16:49
zeroday wrote:
03 Mar 2025, 11:01
Bill wrote:
03 Mar 2025, 10:27
how does Lawson compare to max ,from the limited running we had he look a step behind .kimi on the merc straight away looks on pace ,so why is the redbull always difficult to extract performance for second driver
It doesn't help that RB has always had the mentality to not want to upset Max with a good second driver. Objectively, no one believed TSU nor SAI had any chance at that seat because they would have put up a good challenge to Max, which would have upset Max. Simple as that. Other teams don't have that mentality and hence, they always have better second drivers. Just the reality. It's the RB culture at the moment.
Why did they get rid of Perez then? I mean, why even hire Perez in the first place when Perez was decently well rated at the time? Perez only has a lower reputation now because Verstappen wiped the floor with him.

And it's a genuine laugh to think Tsunoda could have put up a challenge to Max. :lol:

Sainz might have been closer, but let's be real - Verstappen was already beating him convincingly when they were teammates and Verstappen was ultra green in terms of experience racing cars.

Truth is, nobody outside of one of the very few best in the sport are capable of actually rivaling Verstappen and even then I'd still put money on Verstappen over a season any day.
the difference between a quick and worst driver in f1 is 0.3 tenth according to engineers ,when redbull car was driverable perez was capable of matching or beating Max so its not funny that Tsunoda can beat Max on odd races he has proven to be quick driver and can handle difficult cars.he put his car p3 in brazil quali beating rainmaster max.so my question has not been answered why is it difficult for second driver to extract pace on that Rb