2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Hamilton was also disqualified.

Both cars out.

I'm going to cry.

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Where are the people attacking us here that we are doomers etc

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Mansell89 wrote:
23 Mar 2025, 13:25
If it is about plank wear not being legal at their optimum ride height, that’s a bad setback.

To those of you much more technically minded than I, is it even possible to change a suspension philosophy mid-season or is it a case of it just taking too long and not worth it in the final year of regs?
Maybe you should stay a little more relaxed. Since Leclerc's skid blocks were obviously perfectly OK, I don't see it as a general problem for the time being.
Only when it becomes clear that they no longer comply with the regulations on his car would it make sense to think about it.

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chrstphrln wrote:
23 Mar 2025, 13:33
Mansell89 wrote:
23 Mar 2025, 13:25
If it is about plank wear not being legal at their optimum ride height, that’s a bad setback.

To those of you much more technically minded than I, is it even possible to change a suspension philosophy mid-season or is it a case of it just taking too long and not worth it in the final year of regs?
Maybe you should stay a little more relaxed. Since Leclerc's skid blocks were obviously perfectly OK, I don't see it as a general problem for the time being.
Only when it becomes clear that they no longer comply with the regulations on his car would it make sense to think about it.
Charles was 1kg underweight which would help to not wear out the skid plank..

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underweight is perhaps due to lack of 'pickup' from the final in lap, combined with treadwear from tyres than ran ~40 laps. I don't see an 'issue' with this.
However, the plankwear is a real issue. Even on smooth tracks like Australia and China without many 'big kerbs' or 'bumps' like Monaco/Singapore. This need to run 'super low' to get performance & the 'peaky' nature of the car's performance window, is an indicator of how small the 'floor tunnel' really is, compared to other teams. Crude iknowledge about basic aerodynamics says - smaller the floor tunnel, higher the performance sensitivity to ride height variations.
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Dee wrote:
23 Mar 2025, 13:37
chrstphrln wrote:
23 Mar 2025, 13:33
Mansell89 wrote:
23 Mar 2025, 13:25
If it is about plank wear not being legal at their optimum ride height, that’s a bad setback.

To those of you much more technically minded than I, is it even possible to change a suspension philosophy mid-season or is it a case of it just taking too long and not worth it in the final year of regs?
Maybe you should stay a little more relaxed. Since Leclerc's skid blocks were obviously perfectly OK, I don't see it as a general problem for the time being.
Only when it becomes clear that they no longer comply with the regulations on his car would it make sense to think about it.
Charles was 1kg underweight which would help to not wear out the skid plank..
No, that one kilo alone shouldn't have such serious consequences.

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Everyone on this team other than the drivers are incompetent. What a colossal failure. When was the last time two cars from the same team got DSQed for different reasons?

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in light of this new info, and knowing that Hamilton and LeClerc were running different 'setups' ; I wonder whether all the Sector2 exploits of Hamilton on Friday&Saturday was from the 'too low' floor on his car.

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It's the first double DSQ from Ferrari in their whole history.
Just posting

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Yikes.

No blaming Binotto, Cardile, Sanchez, etc for this one. Its on Fred’s head this year.

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Wonder if the contact with Charles caused Lewis suspension to be slightly damaged and lowered the car a bit too much. As for Charles, could the missing end plate have caused this underweight issue?
Anyways, horrendous start of the season regardless.

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Charles car is missing a piece of front wing..could be the reason?

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chrstphrln wrote:
23 Mar 2025, 13:40
Dee wrote:
23 Mar 2025, 13:37
chrstphrln wrote:
23 Mar 2025, 13:33


Maybe you should stay a little more relaxed. Since Leclerc's skid blocks were obviously perfectly OK, I don't see it as a general problem for the time being.
Only when it becomes clear that they no longer comply with the regulations on his car would it make sense to think about it.
Charles was 1kg underweight which would help to not wear out the skid plank..
No, that one kilo alone shouldn't have such serious consequences.
I disagree.
From reading the articles published by the FIA regarding the weights and measurements of the 3 cars and I am astounded at how there is literally zero tolerance accounted for by the teams- there is literally no margin for error.

1kg over 57 laps will not cause an extra 0.5mm of plank wear which is what basically Hamilton has been disqualified.
I’m fairly confident that if Leclerc ran all race with his front wing intact and at the correct weight he too would have been disqualified due to excessive plank wear in my opinion
Just a fan's point of view

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Some of you need to read the documents more carefully. And also pinning this on either driver is crazy. We need to accept the team is just bad.

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Dee wrote:
23 Mar 2025, 13:37
chrstphrln wrote:
23 Mar 2025, 13:33
Mansell89 wrote:
23 Mar 2025, 13:25
If it is about plank wear not being legal at their optimum ride height, that’s a bad setback.

To those of you much more technically minded than I, is it even possible to change a suspension philosophy mid-season or is it a case of it just taking too long and not worth it in the final year of regs?
Maybe you should stay a little more relaxed. Since Leclerc's skid blocks were obviously perfectly OK, I don't see it as a general problem for the time being.
Only when it becomes clear that they no longer comply with the regulations on his car would it make sense to think about it.
Charles was 1kg underweight which would help to not wear out the skid plank..
The aerodynamic load produced by these cars makes 1kg of weight negligible.
Hammerfist wrote:
23 Mar 2025, 13:59
Wonder if the contact with Charles caused Lewis suspension to be slightly damaged and lowered the car a bit too much. As for Charles, could the missing end plate have caused this underweight issue?
Anyways, horrendous start of the season regardless.
The hit was way too light to damage suspension in any way. Otherwise we'd have those DSQs left, right and center every race.
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