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The car wasn't fast but Alonso really did deliver a great drive in quali that is gonna go unnoticed.

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The soft compound is the worst of those seen in free practice, so it is strange to see Lance. Maybe they expect rain soon?

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What are they waiting for??!!

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Good effort to finish 11th with the 9th best car. It will go completely unnoticed, however.

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TyreSlip wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 08:30
Good effort to finish 11th with the 9th best car. It will go completely unnoticed, however.
Nah Verstappen would be on podium with this car...I mean Cunoda couldn't pass Alonso but Verstappen in P1 with the same car.

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RB and Williams were faster, but not much. Haas and Alpine about the same pace, Sauber slower. Ironically the gap to the front isn’t that huge anymore, but It’s gonna be a long year if they don’t find 2-3 tenths compared to other midfield teams.

Slow speed and traction are the main limitations of this car. That kills the tyres too.

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-wkst- wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 09:48
RB and Williams were faster, but not much. Haas and Alpine about the same pace, Sauber slower. Ironically the gap to the front isn’t that huge anymore, but It’s gonna be a long year if they don’t find 2-3 tenths compared to other midfield teams.

Slow speed and traction are the main limitations of this car. That kills the tyres too.
And the 4.5 sec pit stops...

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Una carrera totalmente anónima, nunca nadie va a recordar el p11 de Suzuka 2025, pero es sin duda alguna una de las mejores carreras en lo personal. He sacado lo máximo del coche y un poco más. Eso te deja buen sabor de boca, pero el resultado es el que es y hay que aceptarlo.

Alonso's words after the race. He thinks they're not even top 18.

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Big Gun wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 01:26
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06 Apr 2025, 01:08
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05 Apr 2025, 22:40

All fair points. I even posted a video specifically to support the idea that eyesight is super important for top level competitors in sports.

It's still incredibly speculative, though...

And no, there's no chance Alonso wont have had his eyes checked. lol Come on now. You dont understand how absolutely pampered these elite level sports guys are from a physical standpoint. Alonso especially has always been huge on having great trainers and whatnot. His eyesight wont have been completely forgotten in all this.
Funny, you're now the eye expert on top of the weather expert, after I was the one who brought to light this eye condition that affects people our age. Have you experienced presbyopia like I have? You don't need to say I don't understand something I do understand, and stop trying to 1-up something someone else said, it's rather childish.
Dude have a look on youtube what Alonso does to train his reactions and eyes.
It obviously working because most driver are washed at 35. But Alonso Doesnt have a family etc and is crazy motivated. Apart from Max, Alonso is easily top 6.

Honestly If I was a team owner and had a winning car and could chose any driver just for 2026 season, my 1st choise would be Max, Lando then Alonso.
I dont think Lando is that top tier guy. Sainz outperformed him with worse luck over a decent amount of time.

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Sedaxel wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 10:52
Una carrera totalmente anónima, nunca nadie va a recordar el p11 de Suzuka 2025, pero es sin duda alguna una de las mejores carreras en lo personal. He sacado lo máximo del coche y un poco más. Eso te deja buen sabor de boca, pero el resultado es el que es y hay que aceptarlo.

Alonso's words after the race. He thinks they're not even top 18.
A bit marketing for himself too, after some critics in the last time.

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OnEcRiTiCaL wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 10:07
-wkst- wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 09:48
RB and Williams were faster, but not much. Haas and Alpine about the same pace, Sauber slower. Ironically the gap to the front isn’t that huge anymore, but It’s gonna be a long year if they don’t find 2-3 tenths compared to other midfield teams.

Slow speed and traction are the main limitations of this car. That kills the tyres too.
And the 4.5 sec pit stops...
This is why I am losing faith that Aston Martin will be a frontrunner in 2026. Something that the team can control immediately to make a statement of intent, they choose not to do. A championship winning mentality requires striving for perfection in area, yet Aston Martin is complacent with being the slowest pit crew in F1. These frequent 4+ second stops are unacceptable and make the team appear unprofessional.

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There is not fear in F1 drivers, racing is their job since 5 year old.

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TyreSlip wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 14:27
OnEcRiTiCaL wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 10:07
-wkst- wrote:
06 Apr 2025, 09:48
RB and Williams were faster, but not much. Haas and Alpine about the same pace, Sauber slower. Ironically the gap to the front isn’t that huge anymore, but It’s gonna be a long year if they don’t find 2-3 tenths compared to other midfield teams.

Slow speed and traction are the main limitations of this car. That kills the tyres too.
And the 4.5 sec pit stops...
This is why I am losing faith that Aston Martin will be a frontrunner in 2026. Something that the team can control immediately to make a statement of intent, they choose not to do. A championship winning mentality requires striving for perfection in area, yet Aston Martin is complacent with being the slowest pit crew in F1. These frequent 4+ second stops are unacceptable and make the team appear unprofessional.
Andy Cowell does not have a magic stick. He has only been operating for a few months and has clearly identified the team's weak points and is correcting them. It will take longer than it probably should, but the adjustments to the team will only translate over time into performance.

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What worries me most is that we're at the bottom of the Mercedes pack. Two years ago, it seemed like we were the brightest students, and now we're almost at the bottom of the table. That's regression.

The McLs solved their acceleration problems because they were already very good in fast corners. The MBs, although they were behind at the beginning of last season, also managed to improve. And now the Williamses are also running well. We, on the other hand, are just banging our heads against the wall.

And it has to be something basic, I think. What scares me even more: maybe the flaw is conceptual, intrinsic to the car's original design. I've been thinking about this for a while. But at the same time, the rest of the MB pack have managed to improve despite their different foundations. And this surprises me even more.

I don't know. At Suzuka, I think ALO revalidated his yacht skipper title. He's done such strange things, trying to take advantage of even the wind, that he's been taking a risk. I don't think most people have noticed. But he was trying to get something out of nowhere by taking risks. He's not outdated, but the car still looks like a pickup truck.

It was similar last season, right? The only thing is that now we're completely surrounded, and it doesn't seem possible to improve immediately if, as I suspect, the error lies at the root of the design.

I've come to think that the front aerodynamics are preventing the tires from cooling properly. The gearbox, the transmission... it's a mystery. I hope they find the right solution, otherwise the season will be a nightmare.
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I never thought Alonso would enter into decline phase but he did.
He is now form wise where Schumacher was in 2012/2013.
Still good talent still there but just a shadow of his former relentless form.
Old Alonso would take this car to the front of midfield and podiums effortlessly.
Newey came to late into his life .
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