2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

[diffuser]

Honda reportedly "are also suffering their own particular ordeal when it comes to getting scheduled hybrid engine performance for next year. They are severely constrained when it comes to developing it with just one team."

Also: "Aston Martin is encountering difficulties with its gearbox."

https://www.motor.es/formula-1/muchos-m ... 07764.html

I know you didn't write it but it should be "will be suffering". As it is now, everyone has the same limitations on the 2026 pu.

[diffuser]

There are strong rumours in the paddock again that VER could switch to AMR, ALO was even directly asked about VER in the press conference. VER was seen talking to Stroll in the AMR hospitality last weekend.

Hopefully VER stays at RBR for one more year, but in the meantime I really start to doubt. Could also explain that ALO stays under big pressure and makes unusual mistakes (the restart last weekend was another untypical error from him).

He got huge wheel spin out of the final corner, that left him on the defensive. So he tried to brake extremely late to recover, he took a gamble and it didn't pay.

Happens alot on restarts with hards. Especially when everyone else around was on softs or Mediums.

[zoroastar]

Possibly off topic, but I saw a purple Valkyrie on the motorway yesterday and it was one of the most impressive looking things I ever saw with my own eyes.

wow. i road behind a new green Vantage for a while the other day. and i thought that was special haha. they always look better in real life.

[zoroastar]

Can't we give someone else a chance? Does it really have to be Max? Do we really have to become a green red bull? I'd much preffer Sainz or one of the kids.

dude, you took the words right out of my mouth. who gives a flying flock of birds if verstappen gets stuck into another dominant car? its ridiculous that people would even want that with so many other drivers that havent had it so easy for the past 4 years straight.

[collindsilva]

We are still at the bottom of the table, no talks on upgrades on 2025 car, everybody assumes that AMR will make a big leap with the new regulations. The team are still at the rebuilding phase, they will have a new engine and all components (suspension and gearbox) to be built in house. AMR has no prior experience of building Gearbox. And we wait for Max to jump the ship just because of AN. To become a top tier team takes teamwork and wining mentality and all these cannot be achieved overnight. Unless AMR puts some positive upgrades and make the current car competitive, the WDC and WCC is still far dream.

[Waz]

The term "technical director" was pretty misleading at AMR in the last years and the term is not used anymore.

Fallows joined the team with this titel, working on the same level as Furbatto (engineering director) and McCullough (perfomance director), he was not their superior, all 3 were reporting to Green (the head of the technical department, officially called CTO).

At the start of the 2023 season Green was moved aside (rumours say because he didn't get along with Whitmarsh). I guess at this time they had the "McLaren structure", 1 head for each department, but no head for all departments anymore.

That changed in 2024 again, when Bob Bell joined the team as "executive director". In the press release the team described him as the guy "with the overall responsibility for the Technical, engineering and Perfomance functions". So Bell is more or less the successor of Green.

Now it is clear that Cardile, once he joins, will be the new Green/Bell, with Newey somewhere above him.

Bell seems to be (also looking at his age) a temporary solution since 2024.

The successor of Fallows is Eric Blandin. Not called "technical director" anymore but "aerodynamics director".

With the arrival of Gioacchino Vino as the new head of aerodynamics, do we expect Eric Blandin to change positions? Will he work under Eric Blandin?

The constant change is worse than Ferrari. Favouring Whitmarsh over Green was the first mistake. Green did a great job for years punching above their weight.

Not a surprise the performance gets worse each year since 23. No stability while at the same time there are disruptions with building work.

[RedNEO]

The term "technical director" was pretty misleading at AMR in the last years and the term is not used anymore.

Fallows joined the team with this titel, working on the same level as Furbatto (engineering director) and McCullough (perfomance director), he was not their superior, all 3 were reporting to Green (the head of the technical department, officially called CTO).

At the start of the 2023 season Green was moved aside (rumours say because he didn't get along with Whitmarsh). I guess at this time they had the "McLaren structure", 1 head for each department, but no head for all departments anymore.

That changed in 2024 again, when Bob Bell joined the team as "executive director". In the press release the team described him as the guy "with the overall responsibility for the Technical, engineering and Perfomance functions". So Bell is more or less the successor of Green.

Now it is clear that Cardile, once he joins, will be the new Green/Bell, with Newey somewhere above him.

Bell seems to be (also looking at his age) a temporary solution since 2024.

The successor of Fallows is Eric Blandin. Not called "technical director" anymore but "aerodynamics director".

With the arrival of Gioacchino Vino as the new head of aerodynamics, do we expect Eric Blandin to change positions? Will he work under Eric Blandin?

The constant change is worse than Ferrari. Favouring Whitmarsh over Green was the first mistake. Green did a great job for years punching above their weight.

Not a surprise the performance gets worse each year since 23. No stability while at the same time there are disruptions with building work.

Under green it was a lot better I agree. Whitmarsh causes problems with every team he joins. No wonder Newey wanted him out

[-wkst-]

He got huge wheel spin out of the final corner, that left him on the defensive. So he tried to brake extremely late to recover, he took a gamble and it didn't pay.

Happens alot on restarts with hards. Especially when everyone else around was on softs or Mediums.

You just described the MISTAKE, which doesn't make it any better (as others in the same situation mastered it). His luck was that it happend in a useless race, being P15 or so, and AMR was that irrelevant that the live feed didn't even replay it.

[Nikosar]

He got huge wheel spin out of the final corner, that left him on the defensive. So he tried to brake extremely late to recover, he took a gamble and it didn't pay.

Happens alot on restarts with hards. Especially when everyone else around was on softs or Mediums.

You just described the MISTAKE, which doesn't make it any better (as others in the same situation mastered it). His luck was that it happend in a useless race, being P15 or so, and AMR was that irrelevant that the live feed didn't even replay it.

Andrea Stella, Toto and James Wolves often take the blame for providing cars that are unpredictable and difficult to drive, before pointing the finger at the drivers. Looking at the onboards of Alonso, Stroll, and also Drugovich, they're constantly fighting the car through every corner just to keep it on track. How can you expect faultless execution from the drivers under such conditions ?

[KimiRai]

Even Aston Martin, which is known to have heavily committed resources to the future rules set, revealed in Saudi Arabia that it was now running its 2025 car in its brand-new windtunnel so it can try to work out what has gone wrong with its design and calibrate its new tools ahead of the rules shift.

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/will ... ment-step/

[-wkst-]

He got huge wheel spin out of the final corner, that left him on the defensive. So he tried to brake extremely late to recover, he took a gamble and it didn't pay.

Happens alot on restarts with hards. Especially when everyone else around was on softs or Mediums.

You just described the MISTAKE, which doesn't make it any better (as others in the same situation mastered it). His luck was that it happend in a useless race, being P15 or so, and AMR was that irrelevant that the live feed didn't even replay it.

Andrea Stella, Toto and James Wolves often take the blame for providing cars that are unpredictable and difficult to drive, before pointing the finger at the drivers. Looking at the onboards of Alonso, Stroll, and also Drugovich, they're constantly fighting the car through every corner just to keep it on track. How can you expect faultless execution from the drivers under such conditions ?

My hypothesis was, that ALO makes more mistakes than usual, because maybe he feels already VER breath in his neck.

He dealt with so many weak cars in his career, (F14T…) I don’t know what should be different compared to this years car.

[diffuser]

He got huge wheel spin out of the final corner, that left him on the defensive. So he tried to brake extremely late to recover, he took a gamble and it didn't pay.

Happens alot on restarts with hards. Especially when everyone else around was on softs or Mediums.

You just described the MISTAKE, which doesn't make it any better (as others in the same situation mastered it). His luck was that it happend in a useless race, being P15 or so, and AMR was that irrelevant that the live feed didn't even replay it.

I'm just saying, it's happened 3 or 4 times since his return(Alpine included), always with hards.

The other thing is, if he accelerates slower, doesn't get the wheel spin, doesn't brake too late and still drops to 15th? What's the difference? So is he trying to get more out of the car than is there?

[Nikosar]

Cowell brushes off Verstappen future talk : “We’re incredibly fortunate that we’ve got two incredibly experienced drivers signed for the next two years, and that means I can just focus on trying to help improve the business and the art of making a fast race car"

“I’m saying that my head is full of improving the company so that we can make a fast race car for Lance and Fernando.”

[GoranF1]

So @wskt when i said 2 years ago that Mercedes will not allow AM to beat them and use anything to stop them including sabotage you said I was crazy. Well looks like they did screw up wind tunnel for Aston....

https://x.com/ElReyGuiri/status/1913543 ... SIBRA&s=19

[SchuMassa]

Slowest car on the grid.
Fallows should be sued for damages.