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A 5 second penalty out of the blue?? Was he not watching the end of last season?
What do you guys make of his opinion?
I don't think anyone here really cares. The important thing was the pace they showed after their new setup direction and the small upgrade that they brought here. They haven't really had that before. If they keep going in this direction, then today won't matter. If they slump again, then today still won't matter.
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A 5 second penalty out of the blue?? Was he not watching the end of last season?
What do you guys make of his opinion?
First lap incidents used to not be judged to the letter. It all come back to when british pundits last year started a cry campaign against Verstappen in order to boost Norris's chance in the championship.
I also think that strategically you have to give Red Bull a break. They could have told Max to give the place back (like other teams do, who know their car is faster (Ham/Norris Bahrain), but they were very worried about their race pace and from that perspective you would advise him to stay in front to keep the buffer to Russell. Knowing what we know now, he could have won the race if he immediately gave the place back, but that is hindsight. No one foresaw Red Bull's race pace today and that's still the most positive thing. A car doesn't get that quick out of nowhere. Red Bull have to understand this and see where the development goes.
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Has someone from the team spoken about the upgrades they brought here ? I think the weight distribution thing came from Autoracer, but I would like to hear something "official". I guess in the next days we will know more.
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I also think that strategically you have to give Red Bull a break. They could have told Max to give the place back (like other teams do, who know their car is faster (Ham/Norris Bahrain), but they were very worried about their race pace and from that perspective you would advise him to stay in front to keep the buffer to Russell. Knowing what we know now, he could have won the race if he immediately gave the place back, but that is hindsight. No one foresaw Red Bull's race pace today and that's still the most positive thing. A car doesn't get that quick out of nowhere. Red Bull have to understand this and see where the development goes.
I don't think you can give the place back in safety car regime anyway.
I also think that strategically you have to give Red Bull a break. They could have told Max to give the place back (like other teams do, who know their car is faster (Ham/Norris Bahrain), but they were very worried about their race pace and from that perspective you would advise him to stay in front to keep the buffer to Russell. Knowing what we know now, he could have won the race if he immediately gave the place back, but that is hindsight. No one foresaw Red Bull's race pace today and that's still the most positive thing. A car doesn't get that quick out of nowhere. Red Bull have to understand this and see where the development goes.
I don't think you can give the place back in safety car regime anyway.
I also think that strategically you have to give Red Bull a break. They could have told Max to give the place back (like other teams do, who know their car is faster (Ham/Norris Bahrain), but they were very worried about their race pace and from that perspective you would advise him to stay in front to keep the buffer to Russell. Knowing what we know now, he could have won the race if he immediately gave the place back, but that is hindsight. No one foresaw Red Bull's race pace today and that's still the most positive thing. A car doesn't get that quick out of nowhere. Red Bull have to understand this and see where the development goes.
Great analysis as usually, a good weekend I would say.
A 5 second penalty out of the blue?? Was he not watching the end of last season?
What do you guys make of his opinion?
First lap incidents used to not be judged to the letter. It all come back to when british pundits last year started a cry campaign against Verstappen in order to boost Norris's chance in the championship.
Has the letter changed though?
The drivers lobbied for the 5 second penalty to be upped to a 10 second penalty for leaving the track and gaining an advantage, has that filtered down to first lap incidents now being punished with 5 second penalties where as before they ‘let the race’? They are still being more lenient but a penalty is still now issued.
Gary’s ‘out of the blue’ really surprised me though
I also think that strategically you have to give Red Bull a break. They could have told Max to give the place back (like other teams do, who know their car is faster (Ham/Norris Bahrain), but they were very worried about their race pace and from that perspective you would advise him to stay in front to keep the buffer to Russell. Knowing what we know now, he could have won the race if he immediately gave the place back, but that is hindsight. No one foresaw Red Bull's race pace today and that's still the most positive thing. A car doesn't get that quick out of nowhere. Red Bull have to understand this and see where the development goes.
I don't think you can give the place back in safety car regime anyway.
He could have done it right after T2.
In no universe Max gifts a position, the team should have told him to do so if they wanted, but Marko and Horner said they expected it to be a no penalty based on similar incidents in F2.
I don't think you can give the place back in safety car regime anyway.
He could have done it right after T2.
In no universe Max gifts a position, the team should have told him to do so if they wanted, but Marko and Horner said they expected it to be a no penalty based on similar incidents in F2.
Of course I know that is not Max's instincts or nature but he can be reasoned with.
Marko was yapping on Sky Germany about many teams in the paddock suspecting McLaren of a trick relating to plank wear. Haven't got quotes. Likely a nothingburger
Marko was yapping on Sky Germany about many teams in the paddock suspecting McLaren of a trick relating to plank wear. Haven't got quotes. Likely a nothingburger
So people just think Mclaren is running the car lower as opposed to any clever aerodynamic design?
Marko was yapping on Sky Germany about many teams in the paddock suspecting McLaren of a trick relating to plank wear. Haven't got quotes. Likely a nothingburger
So people just think Mclaren is running the car lower as opposed to any clever aerodynamic design?
Don't put much weight behind it. I just hope someone else has the direct quotes
In no universe Max gifts a position, the team should have told him to do so if they wanted, but Marko and Horner said they expected it to be a no penalty based on similar incidents in F2.
Of course I know that is not Max's instincts or nature but he can be reasoned with.
Max probably depressed about losing the race by being jumped off the line rather than losing through a penalty.. smart move by Oscar too and that hurts.. should’ve been a win, very encouraging
