I remember some races in 2023 where Verstappen finished ahead barely and without SC (Canada, Brazil for instance) but the car wasn't any less dominant because of it. It's about a wide variety of performance window which so far McLaren has absolutely got. They've been outright fastest or equal fastest (today) at every race so far. It's domination, but not so much as to make victory inevitable
Yeah, he proved it today with turn one.GCXX wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025, 20:19Ridiculous. Just accept it that Verstappen is outstandingDarth-Piekus wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025, 20:03I am speechless. It's disappointing at this point as Lando makes Max look better than he is.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/dirty-ai ... y-too-muchRunning in dirty air could be the reason why Lando Norris failed to make the necessary headway to get ahead of Max Verstappen in Japan, or of George Russell in Bahrain? Is McLaren's MCL39 more sensitive to the dirty air from the cars ahead?
"Not necessarily. I think everybody struggles with it. But I think it's pretty similar for most of the teams. I think we saw in China, I think the Ferrari was very quick through the whole weekend and they also struggled to get through the dirty air. So I think it's just a grid-wide problem. I don't think it's specific to us."
Befor concluding: "I don't really plan on testing that theory too many times hopefully."
Wow just when your McLaren bias (I appreciate you’re a team fan) couldn’t sink any lower or ridiculous. A huge stretch to say Oscar is the best on the grid…….Darth-Piekus wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 22:05I agree that Max Verstappen is an outstanding driver but when it comes to fight toe to toe with someone he's terrible at that. We've seen that all year at 2021 when Hamilton beat him having a worse car than his Red Bull and we've seen that with Lando Norris last year when he decided to play Mario Kart. That is why Max won't recieve respect from me because he acts so immature when put under pressure and never congratulates when someone has done a better job than him. But enough about Max. This year belongs to Oscar who with hard work is now the best on the grid.
What do you mean? I know people who would not mind Mclaren domination you keep on promising, myself included.
In 2021, the Mercedes was the fastest on average. Bottas finished above Perez too and they won the WCC. Max would have won the championship sooner also if Hamilton had not sent him to the hospital in Silverstone.Darth-Piekus wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 22:05I agree that Max Verstappen is an outstanding driver but when it comes to fight toe to toe with someone he's terrible at that. We've seen that all year at 2021 when Hamilton beat him having a worse car than his Red Bull and we've seen that with Lando Norris last year when he decided to play Mario Kart. That is why Max won't recieve respect from me because he acts so immature when put under pressure and never congratulates when someone has done a better job than him. But enough about Max. This year belongs to Oscar who with hard work is now the best on the grid.
Mclaren had it in Australia before the safety car and before Lando damaged his car. They had it in China. They had it in Japan before they messed up qualifying. They had it in Bahrain. You guys keep saying Norris is the quicker of the two, so add 1 or 2 tenths to anything Piastri does. It was always going to be a matter of time before the others caught up. MClaren didn't capitalize. Now Red Bull has a 2nd driver who is getting stronger and stronger. Mclaren has the least windtunnel time. There's a TD coming in Spain. The walls are closing in.Seerix wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 22:12What do you mean? I know people who would not mind Mclaren domination you keep on promising, myself included.
I can't wait until we see that 0.7s a lap advantage folks keep on bringing up. Horner did not forget to bring up 1.1s FP3 pace advange twice during the interview prerace on the grid, perhaps that's where these rumors come from amongst others.
Nice one for this. I was one of the more opinionated members who thought Mclaren struggled the most in dirty air.AR3-GP wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 22:05Piastri says Mclaren is not sensitive to dirty air anymore than the other teams. So we can put that to bed.
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/dirty-ai ... y-too-muchRunning in dirty air could be the reason why Lando Norris failed to make the necessary headway to get ahead of Max Verstappen in Japan, or of George Russell in Bahrain? Is McLaren's MCL39 more sensitive to the dirty air from the cars ahead?
"Not necessarily. I think everybody struggles with it. But I think it's pretty similar for most of the teams. I think we saw in China, I think the Ferrari was very quick through the whole weekend and they also struggled to get through the dirty air. So I think it's just a grid-wide problem. I don't think it's specific to us."
Befor concluding: "I don't really plan on testing that theory too many times hopefully."
Darth-Piekus wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 22:05I agree that Max Verstappen is an outstanding driver but when it comes to fight toe to toe with someone he's terrible at that. We've seen that all year at 2021 when Hamilton beat him having a worse car than his Red Bull and we've seen that with Lando Norris last year when he decided to play Mario Kart. That is why Max won't recieve respect from me because he acts so immature when put under pressure and never congratulates when someone has done a better job than him. But enough about Max. This year belongs to Oscar who with hard work is now the best on the grid.
Bottas is a better driver than Perez first of all. Second of all Red Bull being the faster car doesn't come from me. That came from Andrian Newey himself and I believe he knows something more than us.
Lando is slightly faster for sure. But the car seems to have a little more relative pace on higher fuel too. I think Max knew that too and was more than happy with the 5 second penalty as being in front was a net gain.
Statistically, Mercedes was the fastest in 2021, it's a fact. Not by much, but they were.Darth-Piekus wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 22:55Bottas is a better driver than Perez first of all. Second of all Red Bull being the faster car doesn't come from me. That came from Andrian Newey himself and I believe he knows something more than us.
Max plays the numbers game and most times he gets it right. Keeping Piastri behind for 2/3 of the race was easily worth 5 seconds.Emag wrote: ↑20 Apr 2025, 22:57If Max wants to race he is one of the best. Nobody can deny the pace and the talent either. The only thing I really really dislike about Max, is that he often has no intention in racing when it comes to defending against superior cars. It's just pure rage gamer tactics. Just hogs the apex and f*ck making the corner as long as he is ahead at the apex. Austin and Mexico last year were pretty disgusting. Saudi and Brazil 2021 were also just horrible. Charles is just like Max in terms of aggression, but I don't think Charles has ever pulled Max's tactics when he was in a difficult defending position before so that just makes him more likeable.
It's a shame, because when he wants to race, we have gotten some amazing battles out of Max. Particularly with Leclerc in Austria and Silverstone 2019. Then they had a go at each other in Bahrain and Saudi 2022 again, just to name a few.
Today he also didn't handle the penalty good at all imo. He was in the receiving end of what he has done against other drivers plenty of times and apparently he didn't like that at all. A hint of hypocrisy there.
