2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[Farnborough]

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Is this a current test this week ?

[rbirules]

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Is this a current test this week ?

Yes, it was yesterday that Yuki did a test of the RB19. Somebody posted a tweet about it on the previous page.

[Bill]

They want yuki to perform and improve yet when it comes quali they make life difficult for him in japan they gave him worn tires and left it to last run a wrong strategy for someone inexprienced with car ,they also damped a lot of downforce making him slow on straights .in saudi they also gave him only one run in q3 even though doing multiple runs would have helped him in light on his experience similar to what Max got.

[Seanspeed]

They want yuki to perform and improve yet when it comes quali they make life difficult for him in japan they gave him worn tires and left it to last run a wrong strategy for someone inexprienced with car ,they also damped a lot of downforce making him slow on straights .in saudi they also gave him only one run in q3 even though doing multiple runs would have helped him in light on his experience similar to what Max got.

If he was faster, he'd have more tires left. That's how it works. Red Bull wasn't making it difficult for Yuki, they were doing what was necessary to help him even scrape into Q3 in the first place. It's natural that only the top cars/drivers will be able to have two proper runs in Q3, because they managed to get through an earlier session without needing to use up an extra fresh set.

[AR3-GP]

Yuki asked for the higher downforce setup for more consistency.

He needed to use extra tires to get to Q3. If they made him do 2nd run in Q1 on used tires and he got knocked out, then you would be complaining that they didn't let him get out of Q1.

There's nothing to complain about. He made Q3 in the last 2 weekends. With such a car, and the history of his predecessors, this is fine. Next step is to start putting pressure on Ferrari and Mercedes. Antonelli and Hamilton are beatable.

[AR3-GP]

This article confirms something that I proposed a week or 2 ago. The windtunnel is not the issue. VCARB engineers say they are not having correlation issues and they use the same windtunnel.

What it means is that the specific design direction that they chose lent itself to more unreliable airflows. Airflows that didn't translate from scale model to real world, or airflows that were prone to inconsistencies both in the windtunnel and the real world, which is why there are discrepancies.

This is a good thing because it means it is less likely that the 2026 car has problems because of the windtunnel. It's more a matter of good ideas vs bad ideas. It also means that the 2025 car could improve as long as they move away from the faulty airflows which have plagued last year's car. There has been some suggestion (viewtopic.php?p=1280689#p1280689) that the internal cooling airflows and deviations between the simulation and the real thing have triggered a broader breakdown of the aero around the rest of the car, especially in yaw where the old car was prone to an unpredictable balance.

VCARB began the F1 2025 campaign as a major threat within the top 10, particularly over one lap.

“Well, I think they have, because they’re not on pole position, are they?” Horner struck back with.

But, Chandhok said he has been in contact with VCARB personnel, who have confirmed to him that they are not seeing any correlation issues between the windtunnel and track.

That, therefore, led to a blunt verdict from Chandhok on Horner’s comments.

Speaking on Sky F1’s The F1 Show podcast, Chandhok said: “Every time I listen to Christian Horner’s ‘our wind tunnel’s a relic of the Cold War’ thing, it’s just PR spin, isn’t it?

“He’s such a master politician. He’s the master of deflection.

“I don’t see Racing Bulls complaining about correlation. They use the same wind tunnel. I actually asked a couple of the people at Racing Bulls whether they’d struggled with the correlation. They said ‘nope’.

“It comes back to a Red Bull Racing issue.”

https://www.planetf1.com/news/christian ... windtunnel

[Bill]

They want yuki to perform and improve yet when it comes quali they make life difficult for him in japan they gave him worn tires and left it to last run a wrong strategy for someone inexprienced with car ,they also damped a lot of downforce making him slow on straights .in saudi they also gave him only one run in q3 even though doing multiple runs would have helped him in light on his experience similar to what Max got.

If he was faster, he'd have more tires left. That's how it works. Red Bull wasn't making it difficult for Yuki, they were doing what was necessary to help him even scrape into Q3 in the first place. It's natural that only the top cars/drivers will be able to have two proper runs in Q3, because they managed to get through an earlier session without needing to use up an extra fresh set.

Its not about tires its about the right preparation given his short time in the car car .in jeddah they should have given him more time on the track rather than leave it to the last minute which meant if he made a mistake its over .drivers where finding perfomance on use tires even on the third lap.in japan they should have prioritised getting into q3 even if it meant using all the tires that was his first quali in that car.

[Bill]

Yuki asked for the higher downforce setup for more consistency.

He needed to use extra tires to get to Q3. If they made him do 2nd run in Q1 on used tires and he got knocked out, then you would be complaining that they didn't let him get out of Q1.

There's nothing to complain about. He made Q3 in the last 2 weekends. With such a car, and the history of his predecessors, this is fine. Next step is to start putting pressure on Ferrari and Mercedes. Antonelli and Hamilton are beatable.

yuki said he was fine he could drive the car ,the team made it about Lawson.they said he coudnt drive the car therefore we are going to protect our second driver and all of that

[Cs98]

They want yuki to perform and improve yet when it comes quali they make life difficult for him in japan they gave him worn tires and left it to last run a wrong strategy for someone inexprienced with car ,they also damped a lot of downforce making him slow on straights .in saudi they also gave him only one run in q3 even though doing multiple runs would have helped him in light on his experience similar to what Max got.

If he was faster, he'd have more tires left. That's how it works. Red Bull wasn't making it difficult for Yuki, they were doing what was necessary to help him even scrape into Q3 in the first place. It's natural that only the top cars/drivers will be able to have two proper runs in Q3, because they managed to get through an earlier session without needing to use up an extra fresh set.

Its not about tires its about the right preparation given his short time in the car car .in jeddah they should have given him more time on the track rather than leave it to the last minute which meant if he made a mistake its over .drivers where finding perfomance on use tires even on the third lap.in japan they should have prioritised getting into q3 even if it meant using all the tires that was his first quali in that car.

Are "they" in the room with us right now?

No one is making life difficult for Yuki on purpose. He chooses his wing levels and his pace dictates the tyre usage in quali. Complaining for the sake of complaining is tedious and boring.

[organic]

According to Autoracer, red bull employees believe McLaren will be "nowhere" from Barcelona due to the TD

https://autoracer.it/it/red-bull-aggior ... td-mclaren

[CjC]

Lando said Red Bull had the fastest car last time out (and several here say Red Bull is equally competitive all along) and Mclaren isn't dominant. Red Bull have seemingly managed to do that without Adrian Newey (Aston) and without Rob Marshall (Mclaren). So what issues are Red Bull actually facing to deflect from?

Lando was too deflecting from his own poor weekend when he said that. Oscar said McLaren was quicker.

Red Bull being a one man team is an issue though, I know he has publicly committed himself to the team but can you imagine if Verstappen suddenly left the team there would be no ‘we are as quick or quicker than McLaren’ going off Perez’s, Lawson’s and Yuki’s results.

[CjC]

According to Autoracer, red bull employees believe McLaren will be "nowhere" from Barcelona due to the TD

https://autoracer.it/it/red-bull-aggior ... td-mclaren

These are the same people who reported that that Ferrari have found a second in laptime over the winter?

[Sergej]

According to Autoracer, red bull employees believe McLaren will be "nowhere" from Barcelona due to the TD

https://autoracer.it/it/red-bull-aggior ... td-mclaren

good to add that Matteo Bobbi, the commentator who leaked this information during their live, also added that McLaren think the TD won't change a thing for them.

[Cs98]

According to Autoracer, red bull employees believe McLaren will be "nowhere" from Barcelona due to the TD

https://autoracer.it/it/red-bull-aggior ... td-mclaren

Take that with a large pinch of salt. What employees? Marko? A few mechanics having a laugh? Or just made up for clicks?

I doubt that McLaren will be severely crippled, their car is too good to be a one trick wonder, it's the real deal. At best their balance is slightly more unsettled by the reduction in flex, yielding a small relative time gain. A tenth, maybe two. Enough to make a difference if RB's upgrades work, but there is no way they will ever be "nowhere" this season.

[f1isgood]

Regardless of the Spain TD, I think the goal should be to out-develop McLaren or at least be within touching distance by Imola otherwise move on to 2026. The upgrades HAVE to work otherwise it's so joever. Can't expect Max to keep taking risks every weekend to get pole by barely a thousandth and then play the game of no mistakes for 50 laps every race. It won't work.