2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

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This is crazy. AMR25 is slower than the AMR23 (Miami GP), Aston improved in the high-speed corners (first sector), but slow-speed corners are as bad as they were last year.

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diffuser wrote:
03 May 2025, 23:18
Imola can't come quick enough.
Depends... it can always get worse. :lol:

Another failed package and it could become an F3 car. Let's hope not.

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wiktor977 wrote:
04 May 2025, 00:43
This is crazy. AMR25 is slower than the AMR23 (Miami GP), Aston improved in the high-speed corners (first sector), but slow-speed corners are as bad as they were last year.

https://i.postimg.cc/1RGy3jZS/miami-times.jpg
The floor they have now, in my opinion, wasn't to improve on last years floor. It was to get stability and gather data. It isn't a lo speed improvement. Hopefully the next one is.

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diffuser wrote:
04 May 2025, 07:48
wiktor977 wrote:
04 May 2025, 00:43
This is crazy. AMR25 is slower than the AMR23 (Miami GP), Aston improved in the high-speed corners (first sector), but slow-speed corners are as bad as they were last year.

https://i.postimg.cc/1RGy3jZS/miami-times.jpg
The floor they have now, in my opinion, wasn't to improve on last years floor. It was to get stability and gather data. It isn't a lo speed improvement. Hopefully the next one is.
Lets hope for something that works, even if it’s minimal we need it to work

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"I have no idols. I admire work, dedication & competence."

wiktor977
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diffuser wrote:
04 May 2025, 07:48
wiktor977 wrote:
04 May 2025, 00:43
This is crazy. AMR25 is slower than the AMR23 (Miami GP), Aston improved in the high-speed corners (first sector), but slow-speed corners are as bad as they were last year.

https://i.postimg.cc/1RGy3jZS/miami-times.jpg
The floor they have now, in my opinion, wasn't to improve on last years floor. It was to get stability and gather data. It isn't a lo speed improvement. Hopefully the next one is.
I'm afraid that bad performance in low-speed corners cannot be resolved that fast, it looks like there is something wrong with the mechanical grip of the car. This would confirm their constant problems with tyre wear and overheating.

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the car is half second slower than 2023 while every other team is faster
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KimiRai wrote:
04 May 2025, 01:01
diffuser wrote:
03 May 2025, 23:18
Imola can't come quick enough.
Depends... it can always get worse. :lol:

Another failed package and it could become an F3 car. Let's hope not.
Then we turn out attention to 2026!

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diffuser wrote:
04 May 2025, 15:30
Then we turn out attention to 2026!
diffuser sees the light!

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I still want to believe the floor is poorly designed. It could be, at least in part, because what the car is doing would make sense considering the straight-line speed. But the car is also particularly clumsy in slow corners, and I don't see the connection. Unless they have to go crazy all over the track (hence ALO's violent swerves) and when they reach the slow part, they lose control... due to uncontrolled braking ... due to going crazy.

I don't know. I'm confident it's the floor and that they'll be able to do something effective soon. But the problem is a mystery: it should be the heights, the distances, the suspension angles, the suspension stiffness... the cause of the problem. Basic things, almost. I'm sure they've checked them a thousand times. And the AM23 was working well... to add more mystery to the situation.

Oremus: May the devilish floor return to purity... we beg You, hear us.
Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.

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https://dubz.co/c/91d436

I don’t want to see a repeat of whatever this was again. This was ridiculous especially when you could see Alonso’s race slipping away live and the they are pretending to Alonso thats not happening.

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wiktor977 wrote:
04 May 2025, 13:17
diffuser wrote:
04 May 2025, 07:48
wiktor977 wrote:
04 May 2025, 00:43
This is crazy. AMR25 is slower than the AMR23 (Miami GP), Aston improved in the high-speed corners (first sector), but slow-speed corners are as bad as they were last year.

https://i.postimg.cc/1RGy3jZS/miami-times.jpg
The floor they have now, in my opinion, wasn't to improve on last years floor. It was to get stability and gather data. It isn't a lo speed improvement. Hopefully the next one is.
I'm afraid that bad performance in low-speed corners cannot be resolved that fast, it looks like there is something wrong with the mechanical grip of the car. This would confirm their constant problems with tyre wear and overheating.
Technically, if they just put last year's floor on, it would improve by .5 @ Miami. They don't cause last year's floor had other issues.

From the Mechanical Grip perspective, if they get the floor right, they should be able to get to Merc Level. They do have the same Mechanical grip as Merc.

f1isgood
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Is AM taking Merc parts next year?
Call a spade, a spade.

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RedNEO wrote:
04 May 2025, 17:18
https://dubz.co/c/91d436

I don’t want to see a repeat of whatever this was again. This was ridiculous especially when you could see Alonso’s race slipping away live and the they are pretending to Alonso thats not happening.
Damn, he was furious. "BUT I CAN PASS!!" and then after Lawson hit him. "Yeah.. but I knew this...".

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f1isgood wrote:
04 May 2025, 19:40
Is AM taking Merc parts next year?
No, from next year on they'll user their own gearbox.