Flexiwings 2025

[Luscion]

reposting

Could just be lying lol. We will know tomorrow.

Apparently, Gary Anderson is suggesting Redbull and Ferrari will get heavily impacted by the new TD which I don't believe be we'll see tomorrow. They also mentioned that the Mercedes will probably become unstable in the high speed dude the CoP shifting further front. Looks like Merc planned it and decide to run a more heavily loaded rear wing this weekend.

That makes little sense to me when Ferrari and RB were the teams with wings that flexed the least, idk what hes on about.

[AR3-GP]

The stiff wing was on Lando's car during second run in FP1 (Imola). They also had flow viz on the left rear suspension. He did a single hot lap on used soft with it, and then boxed again.

https://i.postimg.cc/zGy0Bny4/image.png

[Sergej]

The stiff wing was on Lando's car during second run in FP1 (Imola). They also had flow viz on the left rear suspension. He did a single hot lap on used soft with it, and then boxed again.

https://i.postimg.cc/zGy0Bny4/image.png

good spot

McLaren testing TD compliant wing and Stella being confident (almost bullish) off records in Monaco is all what you need to know I guess.

[chrisc90]

Any lap comparisons?

I mean could just be getting faster either way from track evolution or engine modes.

[CjC]

Good work AR3-GP.
You have answered all of my questions before I asked them

[SB15]

The stiff wing was on Lando's car during second run in FP1 (Imola). They also had flow viz on the left rear suspension. He did a single hot lap on used soft with it, and then boxed again.

https://i.postimg.cc/zGy0Bny4/image.png

https://i.postimg.cc/yxNry2N8/image.png

So it looks like Redbull's Nightmare scenario is apparently not going to end.

[Farnborough]

The stiff wing was on Lando's car during second run in FP1 (Imola). They also had flow viz on the left rear suspension. He did a single hot lap on used soft with it, and then boxed again.

https://i.postimg.cc/zGy0Bny4/image.png

good spot

McLaren testing TD compliant wing and Stella being confident (almost bullish) off records in Monaco is all what you need to know I guess.

The FIA gave, through adequate warning and delay, a very soft introduction for the teams to arrange themselves in compliance. No one should be failing OR have something they haven't now checked through at least cursory test.

Ultimately to contain even further/wilder iteration of flexy throughout this final year of regs. More gentle adjustment than hammer blow tweak to rules. Still likely to shuffle some aspects of performance though.

No-one can reliably predict with any accuracy the outcome though. Alot of bravado is spouted about it

[Cs98]

Just from observing the onboards the wing still flexes quite a bit. It's not quite as floppy as the other one but the difference is marginal. The lap times are not very relevant at the start of FP1. But as many have been suspecting for a while, this TD is not a game changer.

[AR3-GP]

The stiff wing was on Lando's car during second run in FP1 (Imola). They also had flow viz on the left rear suspension. He did a single hot lap on used soft with it, and then boxed again.

https://i.postimg.cc/zGy0Bny4/image.png

good spot

McLaren testing TD compliant wing and Stella being confident (almost bullish) off records in Monaco is all what you need to know I guess.

It's definitely not something that will make their car "nowhere".

I watched the onboards of lap 2 (flexi), lap 5 (flexi), lap 8 (stiff) but it's difficult to compare the laps since the tire became more used with each run (but then again Mclaren doesn't have deg in such a short amount of laps and it was cool on friday).

This should be taken with a grain of salt because their can be other explanations, but my impression is that some things are different. I think 1km/h less on the straights (not enough laps to say with any statistical certainty but it consistent with what you would expect from the stiffer wing).

Also that run with the stiff wing did not have a good pass through tosa. I watched so many laps of the Mclarens getting all the way to the apex at Tosa ( where Red Bull struggle), and this is the only lap where it was noticeably worse through tosa. Oversteer on entry and understeer on exit but again not enough laps to conclude anything and can be put down to other things like bbal, diff, driver error.



I think there will be a loss of straightline speed (small), and generally the balance would be trickier and it will be interesting to see how this plays out with the tires over a race distance.

[SB15]

The stiff wing was on Lando's car during second run in FP1 (Imola). They also had flow viz on the left rear suspension. He did a single hot lap on used soft with it, and then boxed again.

https://i.postimg.cc/zGy0Bny4/image.png

good spot

McLaren testing TD compliant wing and Stella being confident (almost bullish) off records in Monaco is all what you need to know I guess.

It's definitely not something that will make their car "nowhere".

I watched the onboards of lap 2 (flexi), lap 5 (flexi), lap 8 (stiff) but it's difficult to compare the laps since the tire became more used with each run (but then again Mclaren doesn't have deg in such a short amount of laps and it was cool on friday).

This should be taken with a grain of salt because their can be other explanations, but my impression is that some things are different. I think 1km/h less on the straights (not enough laps to say with any statistical certainty but it consistent with what you would expect from the stiffer wing). Also that last run had a not so good run though Tosa (oversteer on entry, understeer on exit but again not enough laps to conclude anything).

I think there will be a loss of straightline speed (small), and generally the balance would be trickier and it will be interesting to see how this plays out with the tires over a race distance.

Mclaren must've made a front wing that was capable of Flexing and Not-Flexing that doesn't impact the CoP of the car. Only impact will be top speed.

Bonkers if this TD impacts Redbull even more.

[Cs98]

good spot

McLaren testing TD compliant wing and Stella being confident (almost bullish) off records in Monaco is all what you need to know I guess.

It's definitely not something that will make their car "nowhere".

I watched the onboards of lap 2 (flexi), lap 5 (flexi), lap 8 (stiff) but it's difficult to compare the laps since the tire became more used with each run (but then again Mclaren doesn't have deg in such a short amount of laps and it was cool on friday).

This should be taken with a grain of salt because their can be other explanations, but my impression is that some things are different. I think 1km/h less on the straights (not enough laps to say with any statistical certainty but it consistent with what you would expect from the stiffer wing). Also that last run had a not so good run though Tosa (oversteer on entry, understeer on exit but again not enough laps to conclude anything).

I think there will be a loss of straightline speed (small), and generally the balance would be trickier and it will be interesting to see how this plays out with the tires over a race distance.

Mclaren must've made a front wing that was capable of Flexing and Not-Flexing that doesn't impact the CoP of the car. Only impact will be top speed.

What? The entire point of the flexiwing is changing the CoP slightly depending on the speed of the car. High speed it goes rearwards, low speed it goes more to the front. With less flex everyone is going to get less of that effect. The question is which team will be impacted most by this shift, if the relative change is even noticeable (which I doubt personally).

[Sergej]

I think it's utterly pointless to compare just one random lap with a stiffer wing with other laps, probably they just collected pressure sensors data and stuff, plus based on those data they will adjust the setup. Real answers are still yet to come.

[AR3-GP]

I agree, it's far too early to say anything conclusively. I only think that if it wasn't worth anything, they wouldn't use it in the first place. So there will be something that is lost. I don't think it's big though.

[SB15]

Well we're getting our answers tomorrow. I predict a lot of teams and fans are going heavily disappointed by the results.

[AR3-GP]

Mclaren say (autosport) that the stiffer wing had negligible impact, in line with simulations.

So it could be a case that the non-Mclaren teams suffer more…(they are the only ones who believe that the wing matters, therefore it is projection of its impact on their own cars)