2025 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

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It was way too early to sound the death knell for Merc, particularly considering the Monaco outlier.

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Early lap time indications look ok. Worth noting both Mercs had 22 (Rus) and 20 (Ant) laps on softs by the time they got off them. They used the same set of tyres for the quali sim and the race sim.

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Matt2725 wrote:
30 May 2025, 17:48
Indeed. Looking at the lap times, they're looking pretty competitive on the long runs. Worth noting they haven't refueled as far as I can tell post fast laps, so they were carrying around a fair bit of fuel on that faster run if that is the case.
Based on team radio, Russell at least will have done around 24 laps on the softs by the end of his current stint. Looks more positive than 1 or 2 weeks ago at least for now.
24 laps and 1:13 dead is decent.

But, the pole time last year was 1:11.4.

By way of comparison to last year there was a 0.1 improvement in the pole time at Imola from 2024 to 2025 and 0.3 at Monaco. Not exactly correlative with differing compounds, set ups and conditions but it does lean to suggest there is good 1.5 seconds in the bag for the front runners.

For 24 laps, you're running around 45kg of "fat" at the very least.
With the penalty widely accepted to be 0.3 seconds per 10kg, you're looking at around a 1.35 second penalty.
Puts them around 1:11.650 with a lower engine mode.

All rudimentary but does indicate Merc are quick(er). If they can just make those rears last....
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Not bad considering they used the same tyres for quali and race sims.

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Matt2725 wrote:
30 May 2025, 19:14
Not bad considering they used the same tyres for quali and race sims.
everyone does, and Lawson was half a second faster towards the end of the stint.

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My biggest fear is they’re still cooking the rears.

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:wtf:

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Fear realized lol

In the team media debrief, Shov really mailed it in. Did not seem optimistic at all.

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zibby43 wrote:
30 May 2025, 23:57
Fear realized lol

In the team media debrief, Shov really mailed it in. Did not seem optimistic at all.

Seems pretty positive to me?

Andrew Shovlin, Trackside Engineering Director: “That was a solid day where we were able to complete our programme without any hitches. It’s nice to have had two Friday sessions without any red flags or other interruptions. We had purposefully put together a busy plan and thankfully were able to get through all of it. Our focus for the day was to understand some of our recent long run issues and we had the cars in quite different configurations. There was a good amount that we were able to learn from that, and we will pick through the data tonight and decide what direction to go in and what to carry into tomorrow. As expected, it’s very warm here in Barcelona and that weather will remain for the rest of the weekend. Keeping the tyres alive across the stint length is going to be difficult but it should make for an interesting race.”

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Kimi seems pretty optimistic talking to the press:

« We purposefully adopted a slightly different approach on our long runs to George. We now will take the time to look at all the data we collected throughout the day and evaluate what the right direction is for the rest of the weekend. I can see we are making progress, though, and with the overnight work tonight, I’m hopeful we will be able to have a competitive weekend. »

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You're looking at tyres after they've been heated with a heat gun and shaved down to check for wear and tread characteristics after the stint.

They didn't come off the car looking like that.

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zibby43 wrote:
30 May 2025, 23:57
Fear realized lol

In the team media debrief, Shov really mailed it in. Did not seem optimistic at all.
Thankfully Allison is there. So he knows what to relay to the simulation team back at Brackley.

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Matt2725 wrote:
31 May 2025, 01:22
You're looking at tyres after they've been heated with a heat gun and shaved down to check for wear and tread characteristics after the stint.

They didn't come off the car looking like that.
=D> correct

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The "shaved" inspected tyres are McLaren items !

Those in first image all McL wheel covers.

An I missing something here ?